[Jason B]

Originally Posted by mrnbcox

Conviction walks out the door when self justification walks in.

This was Sauls problem. People who care about self justification don't put much thought into what does God say

That's your answer, your rebuttal to my post?!!!

Maybe you ought to stick with those closed forums where you never have to answer any questions or defend what you believe just pick up the pom-poms and shout amen every once in a while.

Originally Posted by mrnbcox

First of all, thank you for proving original posts right.

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Please explain

Originally Posted by mrnbcox

Malachi 3:8
Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
3:10
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Oh snap, I never considered that.

Mr. Cox, would you like to tell me what other parts of the law we should abide by? Do we just pick and choose? Should we use Duet 22:5, but ignore 22:8? Were not the handwriting of ordinances nailed to the cross? Who are you to restore what God has done away with?

Furthermore, has everyone you ever knew who practiced tithing been blessed so much they couldn't contain it?

Where's the storehouse? You know in the old testament there was a real store house, it wasn't Wells Fargo where money could gain interest. (Then again, maybe we should discuss the contents of the store house- hint "meat" in mine house)

Do we distribute the tithe as we ought, you know to the poor, the widow, the faterless, the stranger? Rather we exact the tithe from them creating an unnecessary burden. Which is exactly AGAINST what Paul taught in the New Testament.

For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened: 2 Corinthians 8:13

But were not worried about the poor, about the single mother, about the widow on welfare it's pay up, or hell! ( as evidenced by the next part of your post, which I am about to comment on)

Do you think God is pleased with the preacher living the life of ease, not working a secular job, living off the people getting a new car every couple of years, trabeling all over the world on the church's dime, while teaching that if those of the congregation don't tithe the'll go to hell? Reminds me of this scripture:

For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay [them] on men's shoulders; but they [themselves] will not move them with one of their fingers. Matthew 23:4

Yet again, what if someone pays tithes, if they don't pay offerings, they have still robbed God. Why is only the tithe concentrated on? According to Malachi 3 (if your interpretation is correct) they rob God in tithes and offerings. So what is the minimum giving required for salvation? 11%, 12%, 15%? Maybe just 10.01%?

What if someone misfigures, will God send them to hell over a dime? Atlanta Bishop implied such a thing. What if they miss a week, get into a car accident and die? Ar they going to hell over their $50 they didn't put in that week?

Yet again I must ask, when do we tithe? Weekly? Where's your scripture for that? The only biblical time to recieve the tithes were at feasts? There's no weekly tithe. Does your church practice feasts? If not, they might as well, if your teaching tithes your teaching the law, at least be consistent.

Originally Posted by mrnbcox

(P.S. All theives still go to hell)

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Ahh, yes. Tithing is tied to our salvation, maybe you show me my error in interpreting these scriptures:

Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, [as] silver and gold, from your vain conversation [received] by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 1 Peter 1:18-19

Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:27-28

For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Romans 4:3-5

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

I could go on, but for this post will stop and await comment.

Originally Posted by mrnbcox

By the way, Levites (ministers) not only recieved tithes, but paid tithes.

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Right, who recieved the tithes of the Levites?