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Originally Posted by corvet786c
So are you saying we dont need to speak in tongues and still be saved or we do need to speak in tongues to be saved?
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Either everyone who never spoken in tongues is lost, or their not.
Point blank, I am saying that I don't think the Bible supports the assertion that has been made by modern oneness pentecostals that if someone doesn't speak in tongues they are lost.
Many try to skirt the issue with such statements as "I'm not God, I don't judge."
We (as a movement) speak of how if someone hasn't spoken in tonuges, they are lost, none of His, etc. The conclusion is simple. If we teach someone who hasn't spoken in tongues isn't saved, then obviously they are a lost unregerate sinner. Not much different from a pagan or heathen.
YET, we willingly sing the songs they write, read their Bible commentaries and other resource books, use their Bible translations (KJV), etc. all while damning them to hell. And for what other reason EXCEPT they haven't spoken in tonuges.
I'm tired of seeing good people who may perhaps make good Christians, they attend church, they have been baptized in his name, their faithful, BUT because they haven't spoken in tongues they are treated like outsiders--so they get discouraged and give up. Sometimes not only on Pentecostal, but on church and God all together. They are often greeted with the attitude that we're glad to have them come (and certainly give in the offering) but they're taught they can't be used in the church, neither are they going to heaven, UNLESS they speak in tongues.
So the point of this thread is that when examined closely Peter's command gave two specific instruction for the hearer 1)repent 2)be baptized. We see in the text that those who recieved His word were baptized (and due to the context, I believe any reasonable mind would conclude the same repented thus leading to their baptism).
That was the responsibility of the hearers, the Holy Ghost was to be bestowed upon them as a GIFT, not something they must (or even were capable) of doing.