Wow! I can't believe you missed the point of my post so completely. And I thought surely that you, so adamant about your position, could separate the preacher from the results, according to
Philippians 1:18. But you seem so intent on extending this condemnation of women preachers to those who have come to believe through their declarations. My brother, that is sad.
W/ all due respect [& I mean that sincerely], I'm really not interested in your theology, or condescions....only the text itself. Not sure how Phil. 1:18 can be used to override the plainess if I Tim. 2, but whatever!
Now, I think you're purposefully attempting to confuse the issue by using the term "preacher" to mean something other than what is Biblical. What you really mean is "pastor" or "teacher". This is a Biblical "preacher":
Before I address your verse below, allow me to point out that "Preaching" & "Teaching" are used interchangeably & synonymously in the Bible [& this precisely what Paul forbids in I Tim. 2]. See the last few verses of Acts for evidence of this, but there are sooooooooo many more references of this [just quoting from memory].
Romans 10:14-15
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
How does this invalidate, or have to do w/ I Tim. 2:11-15? Have you ever heard of the "Fallacy of Neglected Aspect"? But while you're quoting from Romans, how about quoting, "Thou that preachest......Thou that teachest...." Is this describing different, or the same idea? Of course, preaching & teaching is the same thing, & this is exactly what Paul forbids in I Tim. 2:11-15.
And, yes, the woman at the well was preaching Jesus to the men of her city and they believed.
Sure witnessing can be considered a form of preaching, but not in the sense that it's used in modern vernacular, as in a woman delivering an exposition from the Bible to a public assembly of believers. Paul forbids this in very plain language.
For scriptural reference concerning women preachers/teachers, you already know (
yes, you already know) that Priscilla is an excellent example.
Actually Prisca is not an example AT ALL, of a NT woman preacher to a congregation of believers....let alone "an excellent example." Tell us, does the text state that she "preached" to believers? No!
Acts 18:26
26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
Romans 16:3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
Now concerning the headship issue, why do you perverse this? You know very well that this is a NT Biblical principle, yet you attempt to dismiss this because it proves that there is a way a woman can preach and not be a usurper of man's authority. God, Christ, Man, Woman, Children. And that at every level, the one above covers the one below. With her husband's permission, a woman is not a usurper but is obedient to her head. How did you miss this simple NT Biblical principle?
What in the world are you talking about? Timothy W-A-S a Pastor/Apostle over others, & Paul explicitky commanded him not to allow women to "teach, or to excercise authority over a man." How much plainer can it possibly be????
Let's talk about the 5-fold ministry (Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, Teachers). Which of these do you include in your definition of "Preacher" and which ones do leave out?