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Old 12-12-2009, 08:13 PM
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Re: WPF church back on the offensive?

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Originally Posted by Socialite View Post
todays rhema word

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8R1E...mbedded#at=525


not too much new information

one thing he keeps repeating is 1 Peter 2:9 saying "show forth the praises" means that you are literally parading some literal, visible characteristic, really every translation (or if you knew old english you'd understand this) the idea here is not "showing" but proclaiming. he has repeated this on every lesson, making this small blemish somewhat redundant.

todays points
1. god is invisible and wants to make himself visible (but some theologians would say it this way: god is unknown and wants to make himself known)

2. love goes out from itself to seek an object. god was manifested in flesh of christ.

3. we are the temple of the holy ghost.
(who doesn't agree with this. the behavior paul was correcting when he used this metaphor was that of adultery, fornication and promiscuity, not sleeve length and make-up).

4. separation is the most basic biblical doctrine in the bible
maybe. we are separated. his grace sets us apart. the mind of christ sets us apart. his law of love sets us apart. there are certainly clear distinctions between those called of christ and those not.

the saga continues
The NT only mentions separation one time in relation to the church. That does not sound like the most basic biblical doctrine of the bible to me.

As far as the OT is concerned, the Israelites were an earthly people who were instructed to utterly slay the inhabitants of the promised land. They were to be physically separate from other nations and did not evangelize. If anyone wanted to receive redemption they had to come to Jerusalem.

In the NT, we are separate spiritually. We are instructed to go into the world, leaving the familiarity of Jerusalem and take the gospel to every creature.

Physical separation for it's own sake is not a basic NT doctrine. We are not to do things "just because". Everything we do or don't do has a specific reason in scripture that goes beyond just "separation". Those that make rules in the name of separation only are dangerous. If scripture does not define what we do or don't do, where does it end?

I would say there are much more basic fundamental doctrines in scripture that precede separation. Love, grace, faith, redemption, to name a few.
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