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Old 07-17-2009, 12:47 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?

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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer View Post
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I am not saying any thing differant than what you are saying about being good enough or sinless. I am making a point about salvation based on the story or parrable Jesus used when speaking about the man possed by a devil. That the devil was cast out and came back to find his old place clean and garinished and went and got seven more like himself. I say Gods spirit will not indwell a unrepented temple. But if Gods spirit has come into a heart then God has accepted them and they have salvation.
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

How did they know that the Gentiles were saved? God gave them the holy ghost as he had given it to them. They were then commanded to be baptized.
So how does this relate to women being used by God in the church? Simple too many time man takes the scripture too litural. Just like the Pharisee and those religious leaders in that day. God said keep the sabbath, man came along and put his own spin on things, by the time Jesus walked on the earth there was a whole list of how many sticks you could pick up before it was considered working, or how far you could walk etc.

Consider this God gave ten commandments set in stone. Jesus took those ten and condensed them into two. Love the Lord God with all they heart, soul, and might. And Love your neighbor as theyself. The rest are guide lines to base our lives on. God has one goal, to bring man back into the relationship he had with Adam before the fall. Customs come and customs go, the ministry is given to the church to help oversee those things, that the church runs smoothly. This by no means locks things into law times change, in the fifties many preached it was sin to wear beards and mustaches because of the hippie movement, they did not want to be identified with them. This was ok but it is not neccesary now. Yet many still preach against this without any bible basis. This is what I am taking about. Paul sets a standard for the mainstream body so as the rest of the church would move in order this did not set it as a biblical law that a women could not teach or pastor in certain instises.
It is the exception though not the rule, but realize in certain times like the ones we live in in this country is is accepted. Therefore it could be more the rule. Especialy if men don't step up to fill their Godly roll in the family!!!
However,our beliefs do differ some what, I do agree with this here post.The reason I agree is because the Bible is Holy Spirit inspired but Paul's human nature combined in with his letters and Paul was prejudice against women and anyone that studies the writings of Paul will soon see this vice of Paul's character.
At the beginning of this thread I said a woman shouldn't be a Pastor according to the Bible and that's right.I love the writings of Paul,but I don't care for the man and his views(Does that make sense)?
In Paul's time,men would not have listened to a woman,maybe that is why the Bible discouraged women from the ministry.Now women teach men in Seminary School.
I said,I was a fundamentalist,not a Fanatic
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