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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Where is this from: HINT - not the Quran
"....then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to death...."
Don't bother to explain context, as I am fully aware that this is only part but not all of the text of this and associated verses.
The caution here is that taken out of context, there are many, many verses in the Bible that (given a little time and energy) can be strung together out of context, like these lines from the Quran, to cause an unlearned person to interpret the Bible in a negative light or even use the out-of-context passages for their own personal, political, or financial ends. Rather than do this thing, why not suggest "read the Quran for yourself" Surah by Surah and line by line. Then determine for yourself what the Quran means. Handing out a few crumbs then boldly stating that these crumbs represent the Quran, rather than suggesting "read this book" implies a fear of the Quran and a fear of the audience actually educating themselves in what the book actually says.
It is as foolish to blindly follow a radical minister as it is to blindly follow a radical Imam. Followers of both Islam and Christianity are guilty, equally so, of this foolishness. Islam was not spread by a sword and those who have corrupted Islam with violence neither represent followers of the Quran nor the teachings of the Prophet.
The (5) pillars of Islam are:
1. Belief in the one and only one true God and the worship of none other (familiar?)
2. Prayer. Regular, daily prayer. (familiar?)
3. Fasting. There are both required and recommended fasting times. (familiar?)
4. Charity. It is required that a specific portion of your income and property must go to charity. Preference is in physical goods to the truly needy. (familiar?)
5. Return to roots. Every Muslim, if able, is required to make at least one prigramage to Mecca, site of a place of worship to God originally built by Abraham. This is a requirement of the Prophet but I do not believe this is specifically required in the Quran.
See extra things on the news shows? It represents the few thousand out of over a billion Muslims who have taken bits and pieces of teachings and strung them together for their own ends. See comments above on that subject.
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Do you think there are as many "radical" Christian pastors as there are Islamic leaders? There are no Christian nations where you can be stoned or beaten to death if you are a 13 year old girl that was gang raped by 3 men.
While I understand there are moderate Muslims, unfortunately there are either not enough, they are too weak or they are too silent. Your post? I think the ones that need to hear it are not Christians but those radical muslims. And rather than try to preach to us, stand up and denounce those radical segments if Islam.
On the other matters:
We know we are saved. We know we have eternal life. We don't have to go through life wondering if we have done enough goodness to merit salvation.
Yes we believe in One True God. Is He the same God as Islam? By comparison it does not seem He is.
Regular daily prayer? That is essential, but we are not earning our way to heaven by doing so.
Fasting? Required? Again, no. We don't have special days that we are commanded or forced to fast on. We fast for a different reason. In fact much of what we do is not about fearful obedience, earning our way to heaven or a fear of going to hell. It's about Love. We love God, so we have a relationship with God. We want to do things that draw us closer to God and maintain that closeness. And at the same time we love each other and try to be strong for each other. IF someone has a need, we pray for that person. Fasting helps to increase our faith as well.
Charity is again, not a requirement. Rather Charity, is or should be an ATTRIBUTE or the result of having a genuine conversion. We give because we want to, not because we are required to.
Have you been to Mecca? Have you circled around the Kaaba? Kissed it? Do you bow facing Mecca in worship? When we worship we bow in our hearts and we are facing God in heaven. He is the object of our worship. We have no idols. Do you know what the Kaaba was before Muhammed started Islam?