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Old 02-19-2009, 01:01 PM
martha martha is offline
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Re: Bishop SC Johnson

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Originally Posted by warrior View Post
Martha, I have read your responses, and I don't believe that Bishop Johnson was the last apostle. The scripture doesn't make reference to anyone ever being the last apostle.

Martha: Since no one is preaching what Bishop Johnson preached, and Bishop Johnson was an apostle, Bishop Johnson was the last apostle. Believe what you will but there are no apostles in the world today. An apostle is one whose understanding is given by God and not learned from the elders or taught in the seminaries and also whose preaching is that of truth.

I don't believe that there was no truth before or after him. Saying that would make God a liar. In otherwords, salvation wasn't available until Bishop Johnson. Now you know that isn't true.

Martha: Of course there was the first century church that started on the day of pentecost but we all know that church died out after the death of all the apostles and was replaced by apotasy just like it is today. Can you find the church of pentecost, the first century church, anywhere in history later into the second century? The first century church ceases to exist as was prophesied.

Bishop Johnson did preach that nylons would send you to hell I have a few messages like that.

Martha: I have my personal knowledge of what he said about nylon stockings and that personal knowledge is that NOT WEARING NYLON STOCKS WOULD NOT SEND YOU TO HELL although it was a part of the dress code. I do not deny that the dress code was strict and although it was advanced by Mary Green, Bishop Johnson okayed it and he expected the women to comply with it. Do you see anywhere in the bible where it says long dresses, hats and cotton stockings will send you to hell? I don't think so. Why are you so obsessed with the dress code.


If Bishop Johnson thought the standard that Mary Green made was too strict he had the right to change it as the the pastor.

Martha: I have no knowledge of Bishop Johnson saying that the standard tht Mary Green made was too strict or ever wanted to change it. It continued in the church after Bishop Johnson was dead. It was removed with the last Bishop now presiding over that church as you most likely are aware.


Besides, who gave anyone the right to add to the scriptures. As stated by you, the standards that he set are not in the Bible.

Martha: You, like everyone else in the whole world who knows of Bishop Johnson, you too are obsessed with the dress code. As you well know, the scriptures state that women are to dress in modest apparel as becomes one professing godliness. Bishop Johnson was within his scriptural authority to say what constituted dress as becomes women professing godlines, in his opinion just the same as Apostle Peter was within his right to address womens' dress in the first place. Surely we all know that godly women should not dress like harlots. But everyone has his/her own ideas on what constitutes "dress a becomes a woman professing godliness." Since everyone has their own ideas of what that is, it was necessary that someone establish a "standard" as to WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE. Again, why are you obsessed with the womens' dress? Why are you not more concerned with his gospel?

The no son of God theory can easily be challenged with the scriptures.

No it can't.

There are several scriptures that say Jesus is sitting on the right side of his father in heaven.

That's exactly where he is, just as the scripture said he is. What do you think the right hand of the father is? Please don't tell me you think a spirit that fills heaven and earth has a right and left hand. And please don't tell me you think there's two Gods up there.

With all of the Bible reading you say you do, surely you know about those scriptures.

Martha: I know all about them.

The scriptures say that a woman should cover her head when she is praying and prophesying. It says nothing about walking around with your head covered when you are doing neither. Those are more additions to the scripture.

Martha: Since you appear to have once been a part of this church you should remember why he said that. Again, it appears to be the dress code and not the doctrine that you're most concerned with.


It is obvious that there are so many breeds of the Johnsonites because there are those who are waiting on his ressurection from the dead.

Martha: I have NEVER WAITED ON BISHOP JOHNSON TO BE RESURRECTED NOR DO I KNOW ANYONE THAT DOES. Who do YOU KNOW that's waiting for Bishop Johnson to be resurrected (before the first resurrection)?

Anyway, you and your fellow members are so far gone until any other logic wouldn't make a difference to you anyway.

Martha: Bible truth and not "Greek" logic is what matters. It's the Greek logic mentality that does not see what apostle Paul calls the "mystery" of godliness 2nd Tim. 3:16. and therefore does not understand the relationship between the Father and the Son.


In my personal expereinces, I have seen you many people just like you, and it is pretty sad. Bishop Johnson is dead and if God intended for him to still be pastoring people, he would be alive.

Martha: Well now, that's really profound that you can discern that Bishop Johnson is dead and if God intended him to still be pastoring people,he would still be alive. But you don't get it. He's still pastoring people AND HE'S DEAD, just like the other apostles. The principle of God's word is that IT DOES NOT PASS AWAY.

Martha: The word is alive. Peter and Paul and all the apostles are also dead. Do you stop reading their words? They've said all they're going to say in the written word. Where's your "vision" with nothing new being written for the past 2000 years? Same "Old, Old" word. LOL< LOL But people still haven't learned it in all this time!

There are so many things in scripture that you have neglected simply by being pastored by a tape. You know what those things are and I don't have to tell you. I have mentioned many of them and you didn't respond to them.

Martha: I'm not aware of anything you said that I have not responded to, unless it was something frivilous and silly or that I just overlooked. And what have I neglected?

Anyway, you are no different than the others that I know. Believe me, you are truly in my prayers that God would give you an understanding. Bishop Johnson's voice will continue to be just an echo because those who truly know what God is requiring of us have a living pastor.

Martha: And you are exactly like all the others; no love of the truth. Is your living pastor telling you the living word or is he telling you what you want to hear? Or perhaps he's just preaching error and you/he don't mind/know error when you hear it.

The scripture says God will not leave himself without a witness.

Martha: It said no such thing, NOT IN THE WAY YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING IT. Whoever taught you that gave you an erroneous understanding of it. It appears you take that "witness" in this particular scripture to be "preachers of the gospel". When we know that the prophet prophesied that darkness would cover the earth and gross darkness the people (no true word of God), we should know that Acts 14:17 is not talking about men preaching the gospel, not to mention the fact that this particularis scripture is "clear" scripture on the matter. Go back and read Acts 14:17 again and see that Apostle Paul is talking about the "works" of God manifested in fruitful seasons and rain, etc, in the earth that showed His presence in the earth. Those things were His "witness", not preachers of the gospel. Go back and research the first century church and see what happened to it after all the apostles had died. Perhaps you would believe the historians.

By the way, the reason you have not found anyone with truth is because you have convinced yourself that there is no one. Try looking.
Martha: "The reason I have not found anyone preaching the truth is because their preaching does not agree with what the written word says.
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