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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

You are going about to establish your own righteousness, just as the ignorant Jews did, not submitting to the righteousness of God.
"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believeth." (Rom 10:3-4)

As a Jew, I am amazed at the length and depth of offense in this post. Ignorant Jews?
I realize this is just an internet forum, and I'm the first to make jokes about my heritage and ancestors. This is no joke.
Ignorant Jews? Seriously?
Bro-Larry, I'm embarrassed for you.

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Bruce, You are making yourself a debtor to keep the whole law, not just the TC's. Therefore you have placed yourself under the curse of the law. (Deut 28:15-68).

"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse:..." (see Gal 3:10-14)

Bro-Larry, in the event that you're not informed about Bro. Klein, let me give you a little hint: Klein is a Jewish name and Bro. Bruce is, like me, a Messianic Jew. On the 8th day of our life, we entered into an everlasting covenant with the G-d of Israel. At our Bar-Mitzvahs, we affirmed to keep this covenant in the sight of G-d and family. It's part of our 3500 year old heritage.

Not only do we keep this covenant, but so did the Disciples of Yeshua because He taught them to be great in the Kingdom by obeying the commandments and teaching others to do the same. If the Law was a curse only, why would The Master teach His disciples to keep the Law? Furthermore, why did Paul remain zealous for it to the end if the Law is a curse? Because it's not a curse; it HAS a curse, just like it has a BLESSING.

Bro. Bruce's point is that the Church is obeying nine of the 10 commandments instead of all 10. I find it amazing that Believers keep 9 out of the Ten Commandments and yet are not accused of keeping the Law, but keeping all 10 means they are?

You go to the trouble of referring to the passages which outline the curses for those who do not submit to G-d's Law, but you leave out the passages which outline the blessings for those who do submit to G-d's Law, which just so happens to be in the 14 verses which precede the passage you cited.

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

You are going about to establish your own righteousness, just as the ignorant Jews did, not submitting to the righteousness of God.
"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believeth." (Rom 10:3-4)

The disciples of Jesus, as well as Paul and James (Jesus' brother) continued to be Torah observant, so were they going about to establish their own righteousness? G-d made an everlasting covenant with His people in which He would bless them if they obeyed Torah, and it's hard for anyone to argue that the Jewish people remain as a people who are more blessed than any other. G-d places a blessing to the one who obeys His Torah. To be staunchly Anti-Torah is one thing, but calling the Jews ignorant is an embarrassment.

1. Being 'under the Law' does not mean performing functions of the Law. It means relying on the Law for salvation instead of the blood of Jesus. Those who have Jesus as THE foundation and obey Torah are not under the Law.
2. Instead of labeling G-d's Chosen People as ignorant, the Church should be praying for the blinders to be removed from them.
3. A better translation of Romans 10:3-4 would be, "For Messiah is the GOAL of TORAH for righteousness to everyone that believes." To say that Christ ended the Law He gave at Sinai means that when he gave it as an everlasting covenant, it really wasn't everlasting, but only sort of everlasting. Everlasting means forever, or until G-d's watch stops ticking.

The Anti-Jewish theological bias which the Adversary has sowed into the Bride of Messiah needs to be purged because when Yeshua returns, He's coming as a Jewish King. Yeshua, the King of the Jews, will reign over Israel and all the earth, and He'll reign over people who have the Torah written on their hearts. Our King will have no place for Anti-Jewish, Anti-Torah attitudes in His Kingdom.