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Old 06-12-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY View Post
I know what you are saying but the UPCI is not a police organization. It would be impossible to keep track of what each and every minister is doing. If the minister signs and then doesn't obey it is between he and God. Personally, I'd like to see the TV thing eliminated from the UPC manual. Although I don't want to see UPC churches on TV. TV evangelists and TV churches have left a bad taste in the mouths of people. I think it is OK to advertise but not have live church programs.

I have a TV and am licensed but with another organization. As far as I know none of our churches are on TV either but we don't teach against TV but do teach about what we should watch on TV. When I was licensed with UPC I forgot about the TV thing and did renew. It was an oversight and I dropped my membership. Our UPC church did not harp on TV. Our pastor said he wished the people didn't have them but he didn't think it was a heaven or hell issue. I have always felt that if I couldn't watch a program because I would be uncomfortable with my daughters or grandchildren sitting next to me then I shouldn't watch it either. Or if I would feel uncomfortable having that person in my living room using the language he is using or doing the things he was doing then I need to hit the off or change channel button.

Probably the wildest program I watch is Monk or Matlock!!
I know what you are saying but the UPCI is not a police organization. It would be impossible to keep track of what each and every minister is doing. If the minister signs and then doesn't obey it is between he and God.


This sounds like the same argument that a Pastor never needs to enforce church discipline and/or to never reprove nor rebuke church members. The simple fact of the matter is that church leadership has a responsibility from the word of God to reprove and rebuke. If they don't take action then they are not fulfilling their god-given responsibility. Will it only affect them? No because a little leaven, leavens the whole lump. Consider Achan in the valley of Achor. Because of of 1 man's disobedience, thousands of innocent, obedient men of God lost their lives on the front lines to their enemies. But because the leader was a man chosen of God who was fulfilling his responsibilities and not rebelling in disobedience to his elders, he sought God and God revealed the root cause of the problem and it was removed. Afterwards, God's people had victory over their enemies. Compromise causes a church to lose its power and the enemy to gain victory over them. A little leaven, leavens the whole lump.

Our pastor said he wished the people didn't have them but he didn't think it was a heaven or hell issue.

So instead of being obedient to his elders above him, he decided to make light of the issue. I wonder how a Pastor would feel if that is what his flock started doing to him?

Even though decision that the elders made was accompanied by tongues and interpretation from God basically backing the decision.

Kinda reminds me of Jesus telling his apostles/disciples in Matt 18 that whatsoever they bind on earth, He would bind in heaven, and whatsoever they loose on earth, He would loose in heaven.

Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

Seemed good to the HOly Ghost and to us; God somehow, it doesn't say how, but somehow indicated that He backed the decision made by men.

God bless.
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