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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
And so you would then say that women are commanded to wear a veil for these times. Plz say, if God commands a woman to wear such a veil during such times, what kind of veil is acceptable to the Lord. Plz point to some scripture which will indicate God's acceptable veil. Surely the Lord would not leave to chance obedience or whim of Man, for what he says is necessary by command to plz him, to avoid something as serious as sin. Or does he let Man determine that which will satisfy God's need-to-cover command? Plz indicate which scripture could be referenced that indicates that God says Man can choose which cover pleases the Lord. ( One Lord, one faith, one baptism. One is a specific number which excludes. It specifies one to the exclusion of all others. Count all the 'ones' shown by Paul in Eph 4.4-6, a favourite passage of apostolics. Does Paul now leave the principle of specifics for a principle of many. You now get to choose which cover to use? Doesn't make sense.)
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Here is another example of lack of understanding the Bible and the nature of doctrine. Don presumes that if God commands something, he will also specify everything that can be specified in regards to the particular command. But notice the following:
Ephesians 5:19 KJV
Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
Here, we are commanded to sing to one another. What psalms? What hymns? What spiritual songs? Which melody? These things are not specified. Does God tell us to sing but fail to tell us what songs, and what melodies, to sing? Obviously,
we are to choose the songs, the melodies. God gives a command, and we are to fulfill that command. That which is specified is that which must be done, the means and mechanisms, if not specified, are to be figured out by the believer and the congregation.
Another example:
Numbers 15:38 KJV
Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue:
But how shall the fringe be made? What material? What design? How big? It was commanded, yet there were no specifics other than it be a fringe, in the border of the garment, and that it have a ribband of blue upon it. Beyond that, there are no specifications. Clearly, the individual and the congregation were to figure that part out themselves.
Yes, God actually expects His people to think about things and come to some decisions. God did not create robots. Look here:
Genesis 2:19 KJV
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Man was given responsibility, he was given a task (a command, if you will), yet he was allowed to participate in the decision making process. It was up to Adam to decide the names of the animals. If these things are true (they are), then it is entirely reasonable that God would command the head covering for women while leaving it up to the believer to decide on the cut, design, color, etc. In fact, this shows the wisdom of God, in that the command can be obeyed across all cultures and all times without imposing any particular local culture upon another.
Thus, in conclusion, the lack of specific instructions on the make and model of the headcovering in no way lessens the obligation of the believer to obey the instructions that
are given.