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Old 11-19-2024, 10:14 AM
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Re: 1Co11.2-16. Instincts. The Cover of Shame.

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Originally Posted by Amanah View Post
Don's question:
"Plz explain why there are no commands in the Bible for a veil shown from creation till Paul, a time of over 4000 yrs, when the commands should be there to show God being consistent with all women in all times."

Don, you assume God's consistency requires uniform commands throughout scripture, ignoring progressive revelation. God's truth unfolds gradually.

Examples:
*Sacrifices: From Cain and Abel to Leviticus, practices evolved.
*Polygamy: Accepted in early times, later condemned.

Absence of explicit commands before Paul doesn't imply inconsistency. God's truth unfolds progressively, adapting to changing contexts while maintaining core principles.
What is it that is seen in the Beginning that is seen progressing? Do I believe in progressive revelation? Yes and so should all. Paul in 1Co11 refers to creation order as his foundation base for his thoughts. The following is seen at the Beginning: 1. God exists 2. God creates Adam. 3. God creates Eve. Somewhere in the midst of this is God's statement that Eve is made for Adam (for Adam's purposes). As Adam was made for God's purposes, so Eve for Adam's. Logic has told Paul that what is seen at the Beginning demonstrates an order of authority. There are no statements in the Beginning stating anything about God's order of authority, other than 'Eve is made for Adam'. Paul is perhaps the only Biblical writer to deduce that what is seen at the Beginning has demonstrated an order of authority. If other Biblical writers have done so I am not aware of it, and admit that the possibility that other writers may speak of it, may be true. Thus, the only evidence we have of the order of authority has come through Paul's deductive reasoning of what he has seen in the Beginning. This has all happened in 50 AD in the mind of Paul and not by stated concept from the Beginning. How does what is not stated in the Beginning progress? There are no concepts, no commands, no statements made there that are available to progress from. The start of the concept happens within Paul's mind in 50 AD, unless it is believed that a concept from the Beginning can revealed to all without a command. This is actually what is seen. The concept of the order of God's authority only exists in the mind of those who see it when reading the events of the Beginning. It does not exist from a statement from God from any words he has spoken about the order of authority, other than Paul's. He puts on paper for all to see that which another may never deduce, making it plain for all then to also see. God has not commanded it or asked for it to be kept, outside of what Paul says, who also only infers that it should be kept, himself copying the methodology God used in the Beginning. It is not a command of God from the Beginning which can progress, though it is as real as the nose on our faces. But, if I'm wrong plz provide some evidence of this progression you speak of. If there is progression of a concept of God's order of authority, then we would see a procession from simple to more complex. Plz demonstrate this progression through the Ages, the 4050 years from creation til Paul. Plz show the progression of the concept of the order of God's authority adapting to changing contexts while maintaining core principles.
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