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Old 10-24-2022, 12:21 PM
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Re: Forgiveness or Remission? - 1500s controversy

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Originally Posted by Steven Avery View Post
Today, coming out of a textual discussion, I was reading from the Erasmus letter countering:

Jacques Lefèvre - (c.1455–1536)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques...27%C3%89taples,

and noticed that the distinction of remission and forgiveness was apparently a controversy in the 1500s. This is in a translation of Erasmus from Latin to English, using just the pages available in Google books, and noticing many fascinating elements to their discussion.

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Controversies (1997)
Apology against Jacques Lefevre d'Etaples
Apologia ad lacobum Fabrum Stapulensem
translated by Howard Jones
and annotated by Guy Bedouelle
https://books.google.com/books?id=DjFXAJbzlEsC&pg=PA90

Those who are now howling in criticism because in the Lord's Prayer I have had the temerity to change 'forgive us our debts' to 'remit our debts,' 358 ...

358 The controversy set Erasmus and Thomas More, on the one side, against John Batmanson, on the other (Rummel Catholic Critics 1 118-19).

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There are a number of interesting elements in the Erasmus-LeFevre back and forth.
I believe that is referring to a paraphrase he did in which he substituted condonare for what he had previously written as remittere (as also the Vulgate). But in another place he uses remittere (I believe in Luke).
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