[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Amen. That seems to sum it up quite succinctly.
I know a preacher (UPCI) that said something to the effect of “okay, if tithes as we teach it is not acceptable, let’s figure out how to fund the church “.

My thought, we begin with something that is not a lie, that is clearly based on scripture.

I don’t know- Free will offerings come to mind, for some reason.

The scripture says ALL liars will have their place in the lake of fire. But preachers obviously don’t believe it. They think somehow God is going to be proud of them for lying about tithes. Interesting.

The idea that the Church that the gates of hell cannot withstand, is so weak that we must lie to coerce giving, boggles my mind.

All kinds of organizations survive without collecting tithes. But the church has to lie, manipulate scripture, add to or subtract from scripture, extort, beg, deceive, and don’t forget have their special government status, in many cases.

What’s wrong with the church? The gates of hell better be made of paper mache!

We begin with something thats not a lie and we make peace with the idea that the end result of what we end up with may not look like what we have now...