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Old 09-13-2020, 08:53 PM
Steven Avery Steven Avery is offline
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Re: the spiritual imperative of the virgin birth

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Originally Posted by Esaias View Post
Sorry you perceive me as silly because I don't accept as gospel truth things said by proto-catholic apologists and theologians.
Calling writers from 200 AD (who are often called heretics for various reasons) proto-catholic is an example of why I can't take your writing seriously.

There is a Roman Catholic doctrine in this mix, the immaculate conception of Mary. As shown in the paper in the OP, understanding the virgin birth eliminates that doctrinal error, and also the divine implant, surrogate mother, error.

Beyond that, your idea that "seed of Abraham" or "seed of David" somehow obviates the distinction that Jesus did not have a human father to pass through the germ of the sin nature, is similarly a laugher.

Now that you leave, maybe we can get more substantive responses. I do wish you well, you do have much better topics, and I still await the answer to my very simple question that ended the last post.

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Is there any intrinsic difference, in terms of sin, between Jesus being born of a virgin, and the common Joe.
Your answer seems to be no, I just would like you to state it clearly, then we can move on.

Last edited by Steven Avery; 09-13-2020 at 09:03 PM.
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