[Steven Avery]

More review - a hotter issue here around 2007.

Ancient Monarchians and Trinitarians - 2007 - 27 pages
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ead.php?t=7472

This is a more interesting general thread, although it does get redundant a bit. The same chart of quotes is put up twice. Goes into definitions of monarchians, the Paulicians, the 200s bishops of Rome Victor, Zephyrinus, and Callistus, and a number of other issues.

Note that they also mention the Thomas Fudge thread as touching on the history accuracy, giving a link to p. 9.

Reading Fudge's Book Again - 2007 24 pages
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...372#post236372

A thread that I add to my review list.

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Here is The Key of Truth, from the Paulicians, non-Trinitarian, mentioned in the Ancient Monarchians thread a few times:

The Key of Truth (1898)
Frederick Cornwallis Conybeare (1856-1924)
https://archive.org/details/keyoftruthmanual00paul

Here they are called Paulicans.

A Brief Overview of the Paulicans
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/apologia/paulicans.html

The term Paulians is used as a general term, unrelated.

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POSTS RELATING TO THE PAULICIANS AND THE SABBATH

This comes up on the sabbatarian threads, where the Paulicians may be moved up to 4th century, possibly due to complications of mixing up with other groups. Thus this was placed on a sabbath thread.

Originally Posted by Aquila

We know that there were Paulicians in Armenia who kept the seventh-day Sabbath in the late fourth century:

Eustathius was succeeded by Erius, a priest, and semi-Arian...Erius also condemned fasts, stated feasts, prayers for the dead, and the celebration of Easter; he urged a purer morality and a stricter observance of the Sabbath. He had many followers, whose numbers were augmented by one of Paul of Samosota, from whom they were called Paulicians. Notwithstanding the opposition of the prelates, who invoked the secular arm to prevent the defection of their spiritual subjects, the tenets of this sect struck deep root in Armenia and many of its eastern provinces, and finally the great body of Christians in the former country, withdrew from the Episcopal communion, and publicly espoused the sentiments of the Paulicians...The bishops of Syria, Pontus, and Cappadocia, complained of the defection of their spiritual flocks...induced the Grecian emperors to commence, and continue for nearly two centuries, the most terrible persecutions against the Paulicians (Davis, Tamar. A General History of the Sabbatarian Churches. 1851; Reprinted 1995 by Commonwealth Publishing, Salt Lake City, pp. 20-23).

Here is the section from Mrs. Tamar Davis:

A General History of the Sabbatarian Churches: Embracing Accounts of the American, East Indian, and Abyssinian Episcopacies in Asia and Africa, the Waldenses, Semi-Judaisers, and Sabbatarian Anabaptists of Europe; with the Seventh-day Baptist Denomination in the United States (1851)
https://books.google.com/books?id=ZzQPAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA20
p. 20-23

Notice how it starts with Paul of Samosota, and she considers the Armenians as springing from those roots.

Originally Posted by Aquila

"The Paulicians, Petrobusians, Passaginians, Waldenses, Insabbatati were great Sabbath keeping bodies of Europe down to 1250 A.D." (The Sabbath of God through the Centuries, Coltheart, 1954)

Here is the John Frederick Coltheart page:

The Sabbath of God Through the Centuries (1954)
John Frederick Coltheart (1924-1974)
https://archive.org/details/TheSabba...e/n35/mode/1up

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Originally Posted by Esaias

The thing is, everybody except the catholics claim the Waldensians as a single movement, and as identical to their own faith and praxis. Preble seems to think the Albigensians, Paulicians, and Cathars were all Waldensians, who believed as he does. Several writers (COG7th Day, Armstrong-era WWCOG, etc) claim the exact opposite, that all these groups were sabbatarian law-keeping COG people, some Oneness Pentecostals claim these were all Oneness Pentecostals etc.

I haven't identified any factual errors by Andrews, but then I never actually read his History all the way through. I have found some COG7th Day writers to be a bit more thorough. I've never really been a fan of SDA authors except Bacchiocchi. Uriah Smith's work on Daniel though was pretty interesting.