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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
I have a question, it may be a dumb question. Why is the discussion wrapped around Moses, at the time when he gave the children of Israel the Ten Commandments, some are saying that’s the start of the covenant. What about his covenant with Abraham in Genesis 15? The Lord told Abraham, his people were going to be in bondage and released after so many years. Remember they refer to him as Father Abraham, the covenant started with him, not with Moses or even the children of Israel. |
Well, the debate is about whether or not the 4th commandment is still obligatory. Brother Blume says the obligation of the 4th commandment has been changed from remembering the Sabbath day to keep it holy to enter the new covenant rest provided by Christ. Brother Tithesmeister is saying the 4th commandment has been abolished or done away with altogether along with the other nine, since the ten commandments are the old covenant itself. This last bit is where the discussion is currently, since brother Avery introduced and referenced a claim by a Mr Wallace that the old covenant that is done away with is a covenant in
Ex 19 and thus NOT the ten commandments or the covenant described in
Ex 20. So the discussion is currently focused on what happened at Sinai (for brother Avery and brother Tithemeister).
I agree with you that this actually goes back to Abraham (actually even further, back to Adam) as the Sinaitic covenant is connected to the Abrahamic covenant (as is the new covenant). But right now they are hashing out how many covenants were made at Sinai, and what bearing this has on the ten commandments.