Context is not lost, and are you implying I did this purposely to accomplish that?
I am standing on context by using what
Colossians 2 said along with what
Galatians 3 said, which is why I said the actual overall picture is that the reason elements of the world are listed as law in
Col 2 with traditions of men is because we not only are to avoid traditions of men, but also elementary schooling of law if those elements are said to not be something we much engage in.
Please include all I say about the issue, and not just one small part out of overall context.
Read again what I just said.
Paul said the Jews were in bondage to the elements of the world. Jews, Esaias. Jews. They were under law until Christ came, like students bound under tutorship until graduation day. That’s plain context.
He said BONDAGE, period. And like so many scholars noted apart from my own studies that arrived at the same conclusion, showing it’s self-evident, they went from one form of bondage to another.
That’s a claim you did not even attempt to justify by example. Jesus was born under the law and kept all the observances of law. That does not prove we’re meant to keep law.
It’s so plain to see in Paul’s context of
Gal 3 through 4 that’s it’s hard to resist refusing to answer your statement here. I really cannot believe you cannot see the point I am making about
Gal 3-4 context knowing what you’re seen in other issues. It’s like you’re in a bubble when it comes to Sabbath keeping while you are great in other aspects. You hit this issue and it’s ridiculous compared to brilliant words on other issues.
Paul was said to be speaking against law because they thought he meant law was trash and rubbish, which is what you were actually, and falsely, accusing me of antinomianism a few months ago.
Paul never stated law was trash, but it can appear to have been the case when one does not understand what Paul taught about how we are meant to live by strength of the Spirit, after prayer in faith for God to empower us to live righteously, rather than making ourselves obey rules on a list.
Paul plainly stated that the commandments of God written and engraved on stones were the MINISTRATION OF DEATH. I meant to bring this up earlier, since I recall how you waffled on that terribly so by saying Paul was not referring to the actual ten commandments in
2 Cor 3 when he distinctly said he was! And to see Sabbath fulfilled is to keep it in our rest with Christ, aside from the moral commandments to not kill, etc., which are not shadows as Sabbaths were.
No, and the same argument you use here can be said about real presence in the communion supper, which was claimed to have been kept by the early church. This is why I stick with the BIBLE, and not to so-called historical references outside the bible.
I’ve also studied this for YEARS, Esaias. YEARS. I n ever even met a sabbatarian when I began studying this, because the bible teaches about the issue. So, let’s leave how long we’ve studies this or what history after the bible says, and deal with the bible as I have been.
I already said it was a shadow of Christ’s rest through the work of the cross. I already said the context of
Hebrews 4 leads up to our need to go to that throne upon which he rested, which you seemed to agree with, though you never really clarified it when I asked, after you claimed you keep Sabbath and refer to a superior on where we’re told there remains a rest to the people of God in
Heb 4.
How can you twist words like this so often? The ABC comparison is doing away with the actual blocks that are painted with letters of the alphabet to teach us how to read and write, and being abandoned so that we do not have to resort to our little wooden blocks of painted letters when we actually write as adults. Keeping the day is a building block that teaches us there is a superior rest beyond mere observance of a physical day on planet earth, which is resting in the finished work of the cross.
Wonderfully enough, this is shown when Israel left Sinai, where law was given, and went a three day journey to enter the REST OF CANAAN, representing entrance into the rest of the cross by leaving law’s schoolmastery.
Show me one man keeping it in the bible before Moses came with law.
No it would not apply to all ten. How is a command to not murder fulfilled in Christ so we need not keep the refrain from murder any more?
No it cannot. And I explained that over and over and you refuse to acknowledge I ever did. AGAIN (!!) let me explain it. Sabbath was a a shadow of the rest Christ entered after his work of NEW creation, and we enter that REST by ceasing from law’s push to make us righteous through works. Now how can that apply to the other of the ten?
You’re really reaching now.
Honouring mother and father is a moral obligation aside from the amoral nature of Sabbath keeping.