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Old 01-15-2019, 11:01 AM
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Re: Oneness vs Monotheism

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Sorry that comment was for an other brother (or sister propably) who spoke me bad.
You did not address John 14:9 ...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;
The Son speaks and did not said i am the Father, but he who sees mr (the man) he sees the Father (inside me).
"so much time i am with you and you dont know me Philip? Everyonae who seess me he sees the Father...The works that I (Son) do i dont do by MYSELF,but eh FATHER WICH IS IN ME does the works"

you did not address Colosians 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God,amen God is Spirirt, and Jesus the Son weas the image of that Spirit, ir was the image of, not God himself


you did not address 1Tim 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh..
Amen God (Jeus) did a body and dwells in that body. That was the Son of God becose h was born of that Spirit and then when the child grew and did all the things that a Jew must do (the law) died for us. God resurrected him and gave him all his glory! The Spirit of God dwell and still dwells inside that body.That was the Son of God. Father came in the Son not as the Son and gave everything to His Son. even his name! That is the Spirit we have inside us, God in Chrsit, is the Spirit of Goid in the glorifioed hujman spirit of the Son, that is why he said "we will come and dwell in him" and other timew say that "the Spirit mediate for us" and other "God is inside you"
What bothers you ? really i can not understand what was so strange to you?
and yes ,many people keep telling that the Son is the Father, the God played roles or changed modes ,i listed many times those things. however i dont think all Oneness people believe that>
take this video, this brother too explains the same thing :

It seems you really are contradicting yourself. Example you say in one Post 1)Jesus is the Father and another Post Jesus is not the Father.
2)You say in one post God was manifest IN the flesh. In another post you say Jesus is God's manifestation.
3)I think you should be consistent in you belief.
4)Do you believe the Son was the Father manifest in the flesh?
1)You missunderstand me.Or better you are between Scriopture and Oneness Jesus is the Father. and gave his name to His Son:
John 17:' Holy Father, keep through thine own name which thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are]." (original text)
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Right? So yes Jesus is the Faather manifest in flesh (he did not became flesh He came IN flesh.

2)And the Son yes i told both that is the image of the invisible God, nobody ever saw God ,but the Son revealed to us. God was in Christ. Christ means anointed. He was anointed by the Spirit of God. "God did Jesus both Lord and Christ" Glory to God.

3)My belief os consistent with Scripture. I am not oneness or trinitarian or anything. Not theology. Just Bible.

4) Here it is. I Believe Jesus was God in flesh ,amen
I dont believe that God became flesh, neither that the Son was God himself, for nobody can see God and live, He was his Son
(Father=Deity,Son=Humanity)

Do you listen that message (is small) and i think you will better understand the difference. God bless you more and more and give you everyday more revelation of His Son. Amen.