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Old 01-15-2019, 09:20 AM
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Re: Oneness vs Monotheism

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Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness View Post
No one replying to you believes that God is flesh. We all know God is a spirit. And that Spirit formed for himself a fleshly tabernacle in the womb of a virgin. And that was Christ. known as the Son of God because the Spirit caused the conception. No one replying to you believes that God was born at Bethlehem but we all believe the son was born at Bethlehem. God caused the pregnancy of Mary therefore Jesus was the son of God and the son of man.

We know God as creator and Father because he created all things just as he created the body of Jesus, however the spirit of Jesus was the Lord from heaven "the Father", the Spirit of God. You seem to be missing the point of the incarnation. Jesus was not just a body with the Holy Ghost inside. He was a real man but also was the image of the invisible God, God manifest in flesh. (this does not mean his flesh was spirit. his flesh was corruptible like your and mine)

Apostolics do not say the Father was acting as the Son. So why do you keep saying that?

You did not address John 14:9 ...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;

you did not address Colosians 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God,

you did not address 1Tim 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh...

Your comments seem to be stating that Jesus was just a glove that God put on. That is not the truth.

You keep saying that we cant explain who Jesus is but you keep repeating yourself and have not explained your position.
Sorry that comment was for an other brother (or sister propably) who spoke me bad.
You did not address John 14:9 ...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;
The Son speaks and did not said i am the Father, but he who sees mr (the man) he sees the Father (inside me).
"so much time i am with you and you dont know me Philip? Everyonae who seess me he sees the Father...The works that I (Son) do i dont do by MYSELF,but eh FATHER WICH IS IN ME does the works"

you did not address Colosians 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God,amen God is Spirirt, and Jesus the Son weas the image of that Spirit, ir was the image of, not God himself


you did not address 1Tim 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh..
Amen God (Jeus) did a body and dwells in that body. That was the Son of God becose h was born of that Spirit and then when the child grew and did all the things that a Jew must do (the law) died for us. God resurrected him and gave him all his glory! The Spirit of God dwell and still dwells inside that body.That was the Son of God. Father came in the Son not as the Son and gave everything to His Son. even his name! That is the Spirit we have inside us, God in Chrsit, is the Spirit of Goid in the glorifioed hujman spirit of the Son, that is why he said "we will come and dwell in him" and other timew say that "the Spirit mediate for us" and other "God is inside you"
What bothers you ? really i can not understand what was so strange to you?
and yes ,many people keep telling that the Son is the Father, the God played roles or changed modes ,i listed many times those things. however i dont think all Oneness people believe that>
take this video, this brother too explains the same thing :