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Originally Posted by Esaias
So, a group of people "seem more like Christians" than people who actually have been born again? Mike, is a Christian one who does nice things and has the cool music? Or is a Christian one who obeys Jesus Christ?
Reading your posts, you seem to believe God's actual church has been left in the dust by groups like IHOP. Do you ever stop to contemplate the ramifications of that?
And more importantly, WHAT ARE YOU DOING about the sad state of "most apostolics"? Do you pray for "apostolic churches" in your local area the way you pray for IHOP and related groups? To the same extent? With the same faith?
Imagine a man who envied the family down the street so much he could only complain about his own family, while yearning and daydreaming about how cool it would be if that family down the street only had his last name. Some might think that was covetous, perhaps bordering on adultery?
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I believe there are those there who ARE born again. If one does
Acts 2:38 is he not born again? If one goes by who OBEYS Jesus Christ then we will quickly find out that for MOST of the Apostolics I have known there is a double standard.
They have their own "light" doctrine. As long as one does
Acts 2:38 they have Heaven made no matter what other false doctrines they teach. Other groups may be fashioned into the image of Jesus more than they, which if one has the Holy Spirit and walks by faith is entirely possible.
What AM I DOING about Apostolic Churches? For years I have been following the Carlise Christian Fellowship by way of audio and streaming video. Again I have shaved my beard almost entirely and headed back for the last Apostolic Church we tried. Not sure the Pastor will be happy to see me again after our discussion over immortal soul a while back but I dont know what else to do.
I pray regularly for Apostolic Churches that I am aware of. That does not mean I cant pray for Charismatic/Pentecostal groups. I pray for them to come to what Apostolics have in baptism in Jesus name and Oneness.
Other than that the other groups may have more truth than Apostolics. I dont go just by
Acts 2:38 when judging some group. Thats just the beginning as important as it is.