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Originally Posted by mfblume
Yes.
Standing does not necessarily mean upright on two legs. A man can be in good "standing". It's archaic use of terms that do not always agree with modern day counterparts. Will we literalize the right hand and have Jesus sitting on that right hand of fingers and thumb and then standing on it, too?
No, but Jesus doesn't OWN it. It isn't His. It's God's thrown
I already addressed that. God's incarnation is the man Christ Jesus. Like Adam. Adam ruled the world under God. Together they ruled, but Adam was under God. Same with Jesus. And the Father gave the Son dominion over the world to rule it. He is King of Kings.
And we are indeed also seated with Christ in heavenly places. Our concept of specialness is of no consequence to reality. It shows the saved to be extensions of God through Christ... which is God's purpose for all of humanity to begin with.
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My point was never "standing" or "sitting". My point was "different" and "separate" and "subject to". Always has been. The passages don't even say "equal". Why would the writers be so careful about specifically saying that?
There is God, and there is Jesus, nowhere more clearly separated with one subject to the other than in the book of John. The power given to Jesus is questioned nowhere in this thread but consistently from the beginning to the end of the book it is "given" by God.
So why catcall this kid who is going through the exact same verses trying to work it out? He says two different entities, you guys make fun and bring no verses to clarify this? I ask the same, you bring verses that support the kid's position.
Something doesn't add up to what is being taught and eventually it will have to be clarified so that it all makes sense.
John 1 with personal interpretations does not constitute an answer.