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Originally Posted by mfblume
1 Corinthians 15:25 KJV (25) For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
WII, read.
1 Corinthians 15:23-27 KJV (23) But every man in his own order: Christ (CHRIST IS THE SUBJECT) the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (24) Then cometh the end, when he (CHRIST) shall have delivered up the kingdom to God (BECAUSE HE HAD IT WHILE RULING AND WILL GIVE IT TO THE FATHER LATER , NOT YET), even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. (25) For (CHRIST)he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. (26) The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. (27) For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
The FATHER put all things under the feet of Jesus. That means Jesus ruled.
Christ had authority to RULE. JESUS delivers up the KINGDOM because HE HAD THE KINGDOM. And that KINGDOM IS HIS NOW. He RULES IT. He cannot deliver it to the Father if He did not have it and rule it first. And this prophecy is future so Jesus is CURRENTLY over the Kingdom and RULES IT.
Where is my reading mistaken?
So if HE RULES THE KINGDOM NOW, and shall in the future GIVE IT TO THE FATHER, why do you say HE IS NOT ON THE THRONE?
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I could easily be wrong. I said it because I referenced some passages about it but they weren't my words.
I am innocently wondering - do you have maybe a scripture or two to throw over here?
There are dozens of thrones. Two dozen for the cherubs. A dozen for the apostles. Were you guys supposed to get thrones? Saw a passage about that. You're well practiced for judging I have to tell you.
So: Does Jesus have his own thrown? Is he sharing one? Because no chapter or verse I can find has God leaving his thrown.
Let me get you started. I really like you.
Hebrews 8:1 Now the main point in what has been said is this: we have such a high priest, who has taken His seat at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens
That's pretty close to the throne
Rev 5:
Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?” 3 But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. 4 I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5 Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”
6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits[a] of God sent out into all the earth. 7 He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne.
Still pretty close, but not sitting there. God was sitting there holding his book. But that's what I said.
I dunno. Do you have something for us? Because there are several more. I don't really see what you see but I'm just reading the words. Maybe the words don't say what they mean and need re-interpretation? Bring some verses. I'm going to sleep. You have all day to search for them.