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Old 05-09-2017, 10:24 AM
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Re: Christian Indonesian Governor Jailed for Blasp

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Originally Posted by Amanah View Post
The church needs to be freed from all control of the state and guaranteed absolute 1st Amendment rights.

Hitler took over the Lutheran Church and converted it to Nazism.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer and others protested by forming the Confessing Church which swore allegiance to God alone.
There is no such thing as an "absolute" 1st Amendment right. For example, There is freedom of speech BUT you cannot scream "fire" in a crowded movie theater. There is freedom of religion BUT you cannot perform ritual human sacrifices etc.

Yet, we can agree that the government should make no laws respecting religion. Today, however, this must be balanced against a subversive political organization that is masquerading as a religion to advance its ideology. No religion has the right to subvert this nations laws to advance its supremacist ideology.
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