[good samaritan]

Again, see my post above. There is a measure of the spirit comes into the heart at repentance and baptism. It has to, otherwise, how could repentance and baptism effect a change in the life of one believing?

Scripture??? Where in the scripture does it say a measure of the Spirit is given at repentance and baptism? How do people that don't even profess to be a Christian live good lives? Repentance means to turn from your direction and go to another. The change your are speaking is by definition what repentance is.

Repentance is a change from sin to God

Baptism signifies the remission of sins (that literally comes through the blood of Jesus)

Holy Ghost was given to seal us till the day that the Lord comes.

It was a measure of the spirit that he no doubt received. The fullness of the spirit of the Lord working effectively came at Pentecost.

Isn't that where they spoke with tongues?

Think of this - how were all the great miracles and faith accomplished throughout the OT? How could Isaiah say it was "fire shut up in my bones", if he did not have the spirit of the Lord moving within his heart?

The scripture doesn't say that anyone had received the Holy Ghost baptism prior to Pentecost. I am not denying God's Spirit working through the OT saints, but they had a different experience.

No, it was the same spirit. The spirit of the Lord does not change! But it was a measure of the spirit. Otherwise, how did Isaiah feel "fire shut up in my bones"? Does the spirit of the Lord change?

I never said that they received a different Spirit, I said they had a different experience. look back at my post.

"John 7:39 But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive:for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified."

If John and the OT saints experience was not different then what does this mean?

I don't doubt that they did speak with tongues, but the account does not say that. You are assigning the HG as equivocal with tongues, which scripture does not do.

I am saying that tongues is evidence not equivocal(that is not the same thing no matter how you think it). Evidence means proof of something.

You are accusing people of saying, "you must speak with tongues when you get the Holy Ghost".

People are actually saying, "You will speak with tongues when you are filled with the Holy Ghost".

How you view the difference between these 2 are a matter of the heart.

Tongues were a sign that FOLLOWED, but the initial giving of the spirit had to come with obedience at repentance/baptism, and then the various gifts of the spirit were poured out as the Lord willed.

Cornelius received the Holy Ghost before baptism, so you should change your repentance/baptism to just repentance.

But what you are just saying is a contradiction, don't you see it? Tell someone, well you need to seek the gift of tongues, so you can have the witness of the spirit to be saved, is saying - you are not saved until you speak with the evidence of tongues, you are just twisting words, but the meaning is clear.

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I would tell someone to repent and be baptized in Jesus name and then to expect the promise of the gift of the Holy Ghost. At Pentecost those in the upper room didn't expect to speak in tongues, at least it doesn't seem that they did. When the Holy Ghost entered in they spake with tongues. I trust God will do his part if we repent and obey the gospel.