You never answered this, but I ask it when you speak this way: Are you trying to say love in a person's heart excuses them from not knowing about the cross?
you're asking me to guess here, in a sense, but i would say
agape prolly
fulfills the Cross spiritually.
If I could list all the things you imply I stated that I never stated at all, wow, what a thick book there'd be.
i think you've listed them pretty well, exhaustively even. And please don't take these personally, that is the point of discussion; A) makes a statement, B) states any implications they derive from that statement, A) clarifies, etc.
How does anything I said about Paul's words have to do with denying that love of God in the cross.
you're gonna make me go dig up one of those 3 refs, huh.
I said the BELIEF you repeated about the lack of inspiration of the Bible is antichrist.
but i have admitted from the outset that Paul can be reconciled with Christ, Mike. Wouldn't antichrist be saying that he could not?
Questions that never get answered.
if you have a real question please put it in a succinct post; i'm not trying to avoid questions here; am i standing by "The quotes attributed to Christ must take precedence over anything you read from Paul?" is that seriously what you are still looking for an answer for, Mike? Since you have possibly read something different than i intended, i'll rephrase this to "When you read some Paul that seems to conflict with something you read from Christ, go with Christ until you can reconcile Paul to Him, and not the other way round." and as an addenda for lawyers i would add "Learn how to hide your surprise when Pauline passages are revealed to culminate in Love even as you are trying to use them as Law to condemn someone you do not know."