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Originally Posted by good samaritan
When you said the word noble here at the end maybe I am being sensitive, but nobility came to my mind. The Pentecostal movement has been under persecution from the moment it began in this country even by other professing Christians who can't dispute these things happening in the word, but only found 1000 ways to explain it away.
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Actually by "noble intentions" I meant "good" or "sincere". It wasn't an insult at all.
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Originally Posted by good samaritan
You build your entire foundation on scriptures concerning faith yet the people you are defending have no faith that God will fill someone with the Holy Ghost with any evidence. Seems to me their faith is lacking.
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That's really not true at all. Because there are millions of trinitarians who are pentecostals/charismatics who believe in sign gifts of all kinds including tongues, and in the miraculous. Then there are plenty of people who are continuists (believe the spiritual gifts are still active, but don't identify as charismatic-John Piper, Wayne Grudem, Matt Chandler, etc), and then the cesstionists I know don't rule out God working amongst His people, or healings, because of their strong belief in God's Sovereignty (and thus God's right to do as He pleases).
To say these people don't have faith God will fill someone with the Holy Ghost with any real evidence is simply wrong, and just shows a complete misunderstanding of what anyone outside of oneness pentecostalism really believes.
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Originally Posted by good samaritan
They serve a God who in essence has little to no role in their life aside from the straight and narrow walk which they have found to be a blessing to their life and not a hardship.
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I don't know about that at all. I would say of the people I fellowship with that God has a CENTRAL role in their life. Literally everything revolves around God. Just last night I attended a men's Bible study, we began by singing a couple of hymns in a brothers living room, then proceeded to have 2 hours of Bible study. Thursday night I preached the gospel at the county jail. Wednesday night, we met at another household for a prayer meeting (we sang hymns, had a short Bible study of about 15 minutes, then had prayer for a considerable time. It was actually a prayer meeting, not a gathering where 10 minutes of actual prayer happened. Some of these very brothers have been involved in going to Iraq, Napal, etc. I'd argue anyone who is willing to go into Iraq right now to preach the gospel has faith in God.
(Here's an org closely tied to the group I am closely associated with:
http://thirstyground.com/
https://www.facebook.com/thirstygroundintl?fref=ts)
Here's a short youtube video of their work:
https://youtu.be/OzqzPLKFRmw