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Originally Posted by good samaritan
I don't know about Esaias, but IMO forgiveness occurs at true repentance. Baptism is the burial or the covering of those sins. Act 2:38 says we are baptized for the remission of sin. I believe that the sin is forgotten from the record at baptism. IMO
I believe forivness occurs at repentance, but baptism is answer to good conscious toward God.
Again, I feel forgiveness occurs at true repentance. Baptism is a result of repentance. |
If sins are forgiven at repentance, is there still a record of them?
When God forgives our sins doesn't his cast them behind His back, into the sea of forgetfulness?
What kind of forgiveness are you advocating?
This is really a black and white issue, but very fundamental. When are sins forgiven. If at repentance, then you can't say baptism too. If at baptism, then not repentance. And the odd thing is no one seems to be advocating that forgiveness of sins doesn't occur either at repentance or at Baptist (or both), but you all are agreed that a person who repents and is baptized, (thus forgiven of sins, and in Bernards words from the penalty of sin-Paul's words would be the wrath of God), is still going to eternal damnation because they didn't speak in tongues. This is NOT biblical.