[Michael The Disciple]

Jason, let us consider the historical aspect.

It's 1530-1540. Martin Luther comes along challenging the Catholic Church. He says to be saved one must believe in Jesus ALONE. Nothing else.

He is told by many that no one in Church history has taught such a thing. The Catholic way is to believe and be baptized (Father, Son, Holy Ghost, sprinkled or poured) and receive the Holy Ghost by laying on of a priests hands at confirmation and taking communion.

It has been taught that way for a thousand years! And now YOU tell us all we have to do is "believe"?

Were all of those ignorant Catholics for a thousand years lost in such a scenario? Many Catholics had pressed into other nations preaching Jesus had they not? Many of them were martyrs killed by savages such as the Vikings.

Were they all now counted as sinners because they "added to the finished work of Christ"? Prayed to Jesus through Mary? Believed the Pope was the vicar of Christ on Earth while they slaughtered millions who disagreed with points of their doctrine or committed sins?

See where this goes?

And for us right now we are told that our doctrine cant be found in a widespread way in history. Not until perhaps 1908.

But what about Evangelical doctrine? Where can we find widespread groups of teachers historically who were leading large numbers of people who believed in "the finished work on the cross doctrine" before Martin Luther? If they were out there what makes Martin Luther so famous?

Does the Evangelical faith ALONE doctrine find support among the famous "Church Fathers"?

Is it not a doctrine that finds practically NO SUPPORT HISTORICALLY AMONG CHRISTIANS?

But the modern day Evangelical will say "But we go to the Bible to find it"!

ISNT THIS EXACTLY THE ARGUMENT WE ONENESS PENTECOSTALS ARE MAKING?

In the Evangelical system they make EXACTLY the same claim as to HISTORICAL RECORDS as do the Apostolics!

"It does not matter what Church history or historians think what does the Bible say"?

Why is it true for THEM but it is not true for US?

So considering these things is not our bottom line.....yours and mine that the Bible is sufficient to show us the way of truth EVEN IF 99.9 PER CENT OF EVERYONE DISAGREES WITH WHATS WRITTEN IN FAVOR OF THEIR OWN TRADITION?