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Originally Posted by Esaias
I find it fascinating that people who supposedly believe in "faith alone" always turn to people's works as a criterion of salvation. "Look at this famous man. He preaches and does all these wonderful works for Jesus. How could he not be saved?"
In other words, they become legalists! Fascinating.
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Well that whole line of reasoning went right over your head. (Or you are purposely deflecting).
The point isn't they are saved by their works, but to DEMONSTRATE that in fact those who believe in "faith alone" aren't simply people who say they "believe" and then live ungodly lives. But rather that their lives demonstrate the work of the Spirit and all the evidences of regeneration.
Using names simply gives us a common point of reference. Its easy to broad brush everyone into hell and claim that all who don't speak in tongues somehow affirm easy believism or preach a watered down gospel. Specifics tend to be the point when oneness people back off their "essentials".
A name I've thrown out a couple times is Martyn Lloyd Jones. He wasn't baptized in Jesus name, nor spoke in tongues, and lived during the 20th century (thus was aware of the "light" of his day). Was he lost? Don't skirt the question if you say
Acts 2:38 (your interpretation of 3 steps) is the ONLY way anyone can be saved this side of Pentecost. Make it plain Esaias, MTD, GS, Steve Epley (actually to his credit Epley is plain, he seems to have no bones about condemning any of the people I named). So what is it Esaias? Any hope we will see Martyn Lloyd Jones in heaven?