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Originally Posted by Praxeas
there is still no comparison. He was alone, and groups like his are very small and further more most of these sort of nut jobs get their views not strictly from the bible but from Right wing publications like White supremacist publications..where are groups like ISIS getting theirs?
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Christian terrorists are better in many ways. This has been established. In this case they are WAY better because they have WAY smaller groups. Christian murderers are better too because they have purer motives. Christian heaven is better too. I forgot why. Something about sex.
With that said I did not compare them. I only noted that the westboro jerks are not the worst group using some twisted form of "christianity" as a basis for their actions and noted that a potential terrorist can be found anywhere a person who sets their religion, sect, denomination, and personal set of beliefs over God is found. I applied that comment to all.
(That is a paraphrase. Please do not pull a "that's not exactly what you said - liar" as that will become an exhausting thread.) I have plans today. LOL
ISIS
definitely does not get their views strictly from the Quran LOL. We discuss this from time to time. They are still not better than christian terrorists who do not get their views strictly from the bible. I forgot why. It is not sex - that was in the "betterness of christian Paradise" discussion. I think it's skin color and because they smell and talk and look and dress funny or different.
Or maybe was that "all non-UPC" in the "betterness of UPC" threads? Man it is hard to manage the "betterness" list.
Be careful with "betterness" Prax. It's just another word for pride. That really hasn't been your thing. You're pretty cool to talk to, and keep me intellectually honest (or try) but I am not going to tangle with you on betterness.
WRITTEN Hadith was burned during the time of Mohammed and for a couple hundred years afterwards written Hadith was forbidden. When Mohammed caught people writing something other than the Quran he ordered it burned and he specifically said that the mistake made by the peoples before who rejected their scripture was that their law superceded and changed the law of God and in this there was terrible consequence.
Apologists for "Hadith over Quran" admit this but try to justify following Hadith over Quran in many convoluted and clever ways. Perhaps you should ask the folks on your other forum about this.
One of the more humorous explanations for no written Hadith during the time of Mohammed - LOL
"The Ahaadith were not compiled and codified in the time of the Prophet (PBUH) like it is today. There existed no real need for this as the companions memorised virtually every word spoken by the Prophet (PBUH). Allah Ta’ala had granted them such perfect and excellent memories that once they heard anything they used to remember it throughout their lives. The remembering of lengthy poems and the ancestral details of horses and camels bears testimony to this fact. Once Ibn Umar (RA) repeated Ahaadith to a bedouin, in order for him to memorize it well. The bedouin remarked, “Enough, once is sufficient I shall not forget it till death. I have performed 60 pilgrimages on 60 camels and I know perfectly well which Hajj I performed on which camel.”
This was the condition of the bedouins in ordinary matters and mundane talk."
ISIS justifies their actions not by the Quran, but by little bits and pieces of Hadith strung together like a few denominations string bits and pieces of scripture together to form their own doctrines then defend this violently nor not.
In this, ISIS and others are exactly alike and no betterness can be found.