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Originally Posted by good samaritan
When My family takes a trip and my kids keep saying, "are we there yet" they are the one waiting, but I am bearing with them. The saints are crying out before the throne, but God is long suffering towards all who are lost and that would make me want to pull my hair out.
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I understand how you think of that, but I do not believe the Lord is saying that. It is us who bear long with waiting for God to answer us if the reading of that passage is speaking about a delay before answering our prayers. So, it does not fit as I see it.
Everyone, really. At hand means at hand. And shortly come to pass means the same thing.
Daniel 12 shows Daniel wanting to know what the visions he saw meant. He was told the book is sealed and at the time of the end knowledge shall be increased for the people at THAT TIME to know. (By the way, knowledge being increased is NOT the technology of the world etc.., lol. Wow I laugh every time I hear that taken out of context.) Knowledge of the prophecies would be increased, that's the context. And he was told the understanding was for the time of the end.
Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Daniel 12:8-9 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? (9) And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
So, sealing the book meant understanding was shut off for the prophecies. And the time of the end was when they would not be sealed.
Well...... we turn to Revelation and read this:
Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
Get it? SEAL NOT the sayings of this book. In other words, it IS FOR JOHN and readers to know! Daniel was 500 or so years before John. And 500 years was too long a time for Daniel to be in the need-to-know category. So, the time of the end was too far away from Daniel. But John's day is a different story. John was not told to seal the book. While Daniel was told the time of the end would see the unsealing, John was told it was UNSEALED. HE WAS N THE TIME OF THE END! And John was only 500 years after Daniel!
But John's words are supposed to about two thousand years after they were written?
Rev 1:3 said they were AT HAND. The book could not be sealed because the time was AT HAND. If Daniel had to seal it only 500 years before John, and we are two thousand years after John and John was not to seal it since it was AT HAND to John's day, how in the world does that make an sense? What is a mere 500 years from Daniel to John for it to make a difference if we're 2000 years from John and the AT HAND still has not come to pass.
This is why it is ridiculous to say the AT HAND was not very very close to John, and not less than 500 years! It is utterly silly to say the at hand refers to thousands of years when Daniel was out of the loop for a mere 500 years for the books to be sealed.
All of these references are there for us to consider and help narrow down the truth of the matter. This is why I say IT CAN BE understood. People just are not aware of all of these associated passages.
And look at this:
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Jesus said the gospel would go to all the world and then the end would come.
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
We;;, that already happened.
Colossians 1:5-6 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; (6) Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:
It's a cop-out trying to retain a false doctrine to say the LAST DAYS and the END OF THE WORLD spans two thousand years. That cannot fit because Daniel's sealed book and John's open book disallow it.
Peter quoted Joel and said the last days Joel spoke about were on the day of Pentecost 2000 years ago!
Acts 2:16-17 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; (17) And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Last days ARE NOT last millennia! They were int eh last days OF THE OLD COVENANT. THAT was the end they were talking about
WORLD in Greek is better translated AGE.
Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
AGE is the Greek world AEON, from which we get EON depicting an AGE, not the planet.
AN AGE ended. An old covenant AGE. The temple would be gone. that was INCREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT, though folks barely know the bible today and say nonsense like on preacher told me that the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple was a mere hiccup in prophecy! Hiccup? God put his name in Jerusalem, having searched all the cities of Canaan for His name. Jerusalem was called HIS WIFE turned WHORE. It was monstrously monumental for Jerusalem and the temple to be razed to the ground.
And all of this happened in a mere generation since the cross. 40 years! Just like Jesus said in Matt 24:34. He looked into their eyes and said YOU and YE fro all the events to occur before the end. he said some of them would still be alive when that would all take place.
he called it HIS COMING in Matt 21:40 when the religious leaders would be judged and the kingdom taken and given to another, and the pharisees knew better than apostolics today for they knew he spoke of THEM! And that is the only COMING Matthew ever talks about before chapter 24.
Folks, ya'll missed it. The popular view tends to always miss things like this. They did the first time!