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Old 12-03-2014, 06:43 AM
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Re: Thoughts?: Islam vs. Christianity

wadr BE, you do not have a clue what most Muslims believe, or where or what hell even is, for that matter, and Christ could care less if you know the correct words to say or not, if you cannot live them, as i have witnessed the vast majority of practicing Muslims to be doing. Telling anyone they are going to hell is simply ignorant hate mongering. You have been indoctrinated, in the truest sense of the word, when you imagine that you are qualified to judge who is 'going' where. If what you have passes for Scriptural knowledge, Lord, please keep me ignorant. Got a doctorate, do ya? Well doc, i hate to break it to you, but the Qur'an agrees with your quoted verse--at least before you twisted it--however, Muslims don't go around trumpeting it, like some Pharisee, but rather mostly just quietly go around practicing it. I trust that i am as big a hypocrite as anyone, but you are way out of line here, sorry.

ps, pretty ironic, the passage you chose to quote: let's back it up a little--being as how i'm so ignorant--to get the full lesson;

"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
"Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man."
"I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me." (2 persons here, note)
"Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning." (ps, not "the Father")
"I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father." (hmm, who does this sound more like? you, or Muslims?)
"I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things."
and the passage still is not finished differentiating Father and Son; but we'll move on, to the really ironic stuff, which sadly recalls Muslims to me before Christians, God help us:
"Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

Now no doubt since the passage says "Jews" you figger it doesn't apply here, but i will leave that judgement to future readers.Try again, BE, or better yet, man up; no one is perfect.

yikes, this chapter is practically a Muslim manifesto lol

"They answered him, We be Abraham's seed..."
"Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin."
"Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham."
"Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me."

So, you have not even established that Jesus is God with this rather unfortunate choice of passages, much less that somehow Muslims are going to hell. Shall i quote to you from the Second Sur'ah? But no--that would be ignorant. Have a nice day.

"Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word."
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