[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

God blessed him but that is as far as it went. He did it for Abraham's sake. He was cast out during that time, you know. Ishmael is a child born after the flesh, which is a lesson Paul used in Romans 9 when he spoke about who God's people actually are today. Those after promise buy the Spirit. Ishmaelties are as lost as unsaved Jews.

ok. you be the judge.