[jfrog]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

You look at a single piece of evidence and you throw away the whole case, fine lawyer you would make.

cases are not decided on one piece of wrong evidence, but on the preponderance of evidence.

I'll be a good sport and show the deceitfulness in one more piece of that preponderance of evidence you have:

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Vol. 4, page 2637, Under "Baptism," says:
"Matthew 28:19 in particular only canonizes a later ecclesiastical situation, that its universalism is contrary to the facts of early Christian history, and its Trinitarian formula (is) foreign to the mouth of Jesus." (Emphasis original)
If saying that this statement is found in volume 4 under “Baptism” is not enough to suggest that something fishy is going on, for what Encyclopedia doesn’t get to the letter “B” until the fourth-volume in a five-volume series?, then surely the fact that this sentence as quoted reads like it was picked up in mid-sentence should be an obvious tipoff.

As it turns out, by actually consulting the above resource, the words actually come from the section on “Sacraments” rather than the section on “Baptism,” and just like it appears the quote comes midstream in a fuller sentence. Furthermore, and most significantly, the snippet is not even a statement of the author as to that which he holds on the matter, but is rather a description of what some others say about it, to which the author goes on to register his objection. Here is what the contributing author to ISBE, J. C. Lambert, actually says in context:

The assumption made above, that both Baptism and the Lord’s Supper owe their origin as sacraments of the church to their definite appointment by Christ Himself, has been strongly challenged by some modern critics.
(1) In regard to Baptism it has been argued that as Mk 16 15f occurs in a passage (vs 9-20) which textual criticism has shown to have formed no part of the original Gospel, Mt 28 19, standing by itself, is too slender a foundation to support the belief that the ordinance rests upon an injunction of Jesus, more esp. as its statements are inconsistent with the results of historical criticism. These results, it is affirmed, prove that all the narratives of the Forty Days are legendary, that Mt 28 19 in particular only canonizes a later ecclesiastical situation, that its universalism is contrary to the facts of early Christian history, and its Trinitarian formula “foreign to the mouth of Jesus” (see Harnack, History of Dogma, I, 79, and the references there given). It is evident, however, that some of these objections rest upon anti-supernatural presuppositions that really beg the question at issue, and others on conclusions for which real premises are wanting…. (J. C. Lambert, “Sacraments,” in James Orr, M.A., D.D., Gen Ed., International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Vol. IV, NAARAH—SOCHO (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1952), p. 2637.) (Bold emphasis mine)

The outright deceitfulness about what the actual encyclopedia was saying is astonishing!

***BTW the source in question is taken from wordsponges other thread about matthew 28:19 in case anyone was lost with why I was refuting a statement he did not make on this thread. (A challaenge arose that said there was alot of evidence about matthew 28:19 being fake)