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Old 12-12-2013, 09:13 AM
n david n david is offline
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Re: Back with some new perspective

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Originally Posted by Roxanne Murphy View Post
So my pastor set out to prepare good, sound, scriptural reasons to explain why our ladies looked as they did. He realized that he would be presenting these teachings to honest, well educated people who were seeing the Word of God through eyes and hearts not previously influenced by the 'holiness' culture that our church had, compliments of the denomination to which we belonged. He soon realized that he could not honestly make the scriptures say that these things were sinful.
Your Pastor was good with standards until "well educated people" show up, then changes it because he suddenly had a revelation that it's not the truth? Ok.

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Originally Posted by Roxanne Murphy View Post
While God was giving me a good look at myself in the mirror of His Word, my pastor was coming to the realization that he also had some decisions to make. He could either do what some licensed UPC ministers do and just passively not teach 'standards' anymore while signing the affirmation at license renewal time, or he could be honest and transparent with the members of our church. He decided to do the latter. He and his wife sat down with each family and single person and explained what had been happening in his search to find an honest Biblical way to teach true holiness. He explained that the Bible teaches principles and relationship, not rules and regulations, and that it is the responsibility of the ministry to teach the principles and equip the saints to properly apply those principles AS they grow in their relationship with Jesus. It is NOT the duty of the ministry to make rules.
1) How long has your Pastor been a Pastor? 2) It took these "well educated people" to finally get your Pastor to study this himself and find out he didn't believe what he'd been preaching for however long he's been preaching?!?

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Originally Posted by Roxanne Murphy View Post
My pastor who could be considered a 'pedigreed Pentecostal' had also heard these stories. He decided to find out for himself if they were true; he soon discovered that what had been said about those who 'backslid' was not true. This information was shared with me to help answer this very serious concern. I must say, it is a painful thing to discover that those people who you trust and believe to be honest Christians have been spreading lies.
Spare the drama.

It'll play well here on AFF and you'll get a bunch of positive, affirming posts congratulating your newfound beliefs - as evidenced by the posts already.

What would have happened if those "well educated people" hadn't shown up and your church was comprised of just a bunch of ignert folk!? Good thing those degrees helped influence your Pastor! Just imagine what else he can change if there's money with those "well educated people."


Last edited by n david; 12-12-2013 at 09:39 AM. Reason: added "else" final sentence
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