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Originally Posted by Praxeas
So then we agree, the Quran contradicts Jesus and the Apostles teaching in the bible?
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The Bible contradicts
itself on this issue Prax.
There are (4) completely different stories.
The Quran says none of them are true.
Mark paints a picture of a mortal man afraid of death, not the Son Of God (who after all, according to Christian teaching was sent to Earth in order to die for our sins). In the Garden, according to Mark, Jesus begs that the cup of suffering passes him by. Why would the Son of God do this? Surely he knew this was inevitable and the whole point of mission. Instead it sounds like a scared human, hoping to save his life. In the description given, he has no control over the events that are happening. Unlike the other Gospels, Mark does not mention the story of Barabbas or the fate of Judas. At his trial he is silent and does not answer questions. Most interestingly of all, according to Mark, Jesus’ final words were “My God, my God why have you forsaken me?” These are not the words of the son of God sent to die, rather someone begging for God to save him. He sounds like a man whose beliefs are shattered. This does not square with the claim that Jesus foresaw his crucifixion, if anything it looks like it wasn’t part of his plan.
Matthew tells a very similar story with only minor differences. When arrested Jesus claims he could have asked an army of angels to save him, which seems like false bravado as moments earlier he had been begging that to avoid suffering. This time he has slightly more control over the situation. Matthew adds the story of Judas and Barabbas (including a line that was used for generations to justify ant-Semitism). Matthew does make the absurd claim that when Jesus died, there was an earthquake and the dead came back to life, but waited until the resurrection before rising and appearing before many. He doesn’t record what happens after this (nor does any other writer either in the Bible or elsewhere). You would think people would notice a zombie apocalypse and record it, but apparently not. For some reason it’s not worth mentioning what happens to the zombies afterwards. If they also rose from the dead what makes Jesus so special?
Luke tells a similar story but also adds details to make Jesus more confident and in control. In his version Jesus sweats blood and an angel appears to give him strength (you would think the other Gospel writers would have noticed this and mentioned it but apparently not). Unlike in Mark and Matthew the disciples do not flee when Jesus is arrested. Luke does not have any of the Romans mocking Jesus, even one of the criminals agrees with him.
John’s account is the most different. He does not mention Jesus praying and questioning God in Gethsemane or his disciples falling asleep. Instead he is prepared for Judas and the soldiers already knowing what they will do. He is in complete control of the situation to the point where the soldiers are afraid to arrest him. In contrast to the other three accounts (which say he was silent) John describes Jesus giving confident and assured answers at his trial.