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Originally Posted by Aquila
A "reasonable" conversation...???
YOU are the one advocating using the police power of the STATE to regulate a common natural right. The STATE has no business regulating marriage. Marriage was always a private contract between individuals and families before STATISTS stepped in and used the police power of GOVERNMENT to try to prevent marriage between different classes and races. Marriage should be returned to the private domain wherein various communities, churches, institutions, and families can define it for themselves. And any institution is free to recognize their marriages or not.
I firmly believe that you have the right to denounce any form of marriage you wish. However... you DON'T have the right to use the police power of GOVERNMENT to force your interpretation of marriage upon me or any other free citizen of the United States.
I believe that your STATIST desire to use the GOVERNMENT to control something so private between free individuals is unreasonable. According to your logic... the STATE could ban marriage altogether to institute a nationwide draft of all males. Rome did it. And if you remember a bishop by the name of Valentinius stood against it and married people illegally. Three cheers for St. Valentine!!!... a man who truly understood that the STATE has no authority with regards to marriage.
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Wow... You can argue the state has no power to regulate marriage all you want. It will not change the fact that is has taken that authority upon itself and until that changes you are just speaking to the wind. Some say they don't have the authority to tax yet they doo all the time. Some disagree with SCOTUS concerning Obamacare yet it is still the law of the land.
The reality is the govt. has taken the power thus wielding that power to control marriage. Like it or not that is the reality. We can either accept this reality or pretend it does not exist. I choose to acknowledge the reality and work within that reality. All the hyperbole about "Statists" will not change the facts.