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Originally Posted by Jared Hanley
bbyrd, I think one would have a hard time explaining Judas if they took a hardline approach to this. Why would Judas need to be descended from the serpent if satan had to enter him in order for him to accomplish what God had ordained to take place?
On the other hand, Jesus clearly tells the pharisees that they are of their father the devil. And, since I believe in the five points of Calvinism I can certainly understand the logic that they are goats. The difficulty with this is that it seems that you have to at some point become a sheep.
But even this is a difficult matter because if we think about the parable of the shepherd leaving the ninety-nine to find the one lost sheep, then it would seem that some are lost sheep and others are goats.
I guess I have to admit that it is an interesting idea. But, it offends my mind. I know that's not a good reason to reject something. But, you would think that if this were clearly taught in scripture then there would be more people championing this view throughout the history of the church.
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Ah, well, you might better ask a "normal" Christian this, as I do not view Judas like most Christians do. Judas, imo, sinned in attempting to force Christ to an earthly throne, knew that Christ could blow them all away with a look if He wanted to, never expected that Christ would just submit, repented of his sin, and is in, um, let's just say "Heaven" to keep the issue clear.
Although to my understanding Kenites would naturally gravitate to positions of earthly power such as Pharisees, Sadducees, Builderbergers, etc., to my mind when one tries to use serpent seed as in a lineage against an individual, they have lost the point. We certainly don't need another way to condemn, as we are assured that all have fallen short.
You bring up a great point at "lost sheep, or goats?" that I think really puts the proper perspective on serpent seed as a spiritual distinction. While I dislike literalizing serpent seed concerning our present age, since he was given as a type, I would include Esau (father of Russia) as serpent seed, although all Russians are not atheist.
Again, strictly as a mechanism to understand how God could have already hated Esau, and a recog of how earth ages fit into the picture. I wouldn't feel comfortable calling someone who could
prove that they were a direct descendant of Esau "serpent seed," however.