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Old 05-13-2011, 01:49 PM
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Re: DA No Longer an OP

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Originally Posted by acerrak View Post
some times hermenuetics can be a bad thing when used in the bible.
Paul also stats do all speak in tounges?
Do all prophesy?

of course the answer is No.

but since i know in one scripture were they both spoke in tounges and prophesied, maybe we should use hermenuetics to say well all people should speak in tounges and prophesy to show they have the spirit.

Ive seen people speak in tounges and live church in the next couple of services, and you dont see them or hear from them again

then i have seen some who have had a life changing experience, never speak in tounges but they labor for the lord, to a point its inspiring.

Now which would be more proof to you that they had the spirit.

Fruits is always a great way to tell, cause Jesus said a bad tree cannot produce good fruits
I think you've missed my point. Acts 2:4, gives a description of "speaking in tongues" that has never been recorded nor demonstrated to even exist since the time of the "Pentecostal Outpouring" which began in 1901.

I know that there are many - and even a couple on AFF - who say that they have heard this phenomena, but absolutely no one has any real evidence that it has ever really taken place... and that's remarkable given how wide spread "speaking in tongues" has become.

So... and I'm not disputing the reality of the Spirit of God living and working in the lives of people. And, I'm not disputing or even questioning the efficacy of the Spirit to produce "fruit" and to change lives.

I'm just asking, how does the 21st Century "tongue talker" actually know that they are experiencing the same experience that was described on the Day of Pentecost (and at other times in the NT) or that Paul mentions in his epistles?
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