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Dante 06-18-2014 03:57 PM

The Appeal of Preterism
 
I used to be critical and skeptical of preterism as a valid doctrine, but I find myself lately giving it serious consideration as a valid understanding of the scriptures.

shazeep 06-18-2014 04:03 PM

Re: The Appeal of Preterism
 
oh, man--here we go...

Sean 06-18-2014 05:00 PM

Re: The Appeal of Preterism
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante (Post 1319734)
I used to be critical and skeptical of preterism as a valid doctrine, but I find myself lately giving it serious consideration as a valid understanding of the scriptures.




Im so sorry to hear that. You should read this.


http://www.entrewave.com/view/reform...surrection.htm

jfrog 06-18-2014 05:08 PM

Re: The Appeal of Preterism
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante (Post 1319734)
I used to be critical and skeptical of preterism as a valid doctrine, but I find myself lately giving it serious consideration as a valid understanding of the scriptures.

Well, all the current interpretations are more reactive than predictive. Something happens and they go out in droves to see if anything in the bible sounds like the event was predicted.

Preterism at least involved people actually taking heed of a prophetic warning and it worked for them! That's much more amazing than how bible prophecies are currently considered by the established crowd.

TJJJ 06-18-2014 06:37 PM

Re: The Appeal of Preterism
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante (Post 1319734)
I used to be critical and skeptical of preterism as a valid doctrine, but I find myself lately giving it serious consideration as a valid understanding of the scriptures.

I have studied preterism in depth and at first it makes more sense than dispensationalism.

But that is not saying much as dispensationalism is so flawed it is pitiful.

Preterism is the ditch on the other side of the road from the ditch of dispensationalism/futurism. But both are ditches.

I take a more balanced approach of a cyclic view of Revelations. One commentator called it the dramatic/cyclic approach.

There are many undeniable tenents of preterism, yet catholics believe some truths also.

My problem with the doctrine is that true preterism, taken in it's entire package, does away with everything that we as Apostolics hold dear. Not just the rapture but they will discard everything and put it at 70AD. Most preterists do not believe in the spirit world, they do not believe in any working of the Spirit of God in gifts, they really don't believe in much except eat drink and be merry for tommorrow we die.

Yet I am an ardent apposer of the false doctrine of dispensationalism. It has it's problems in that it must put everything into the future and makes it all physical.

Jesus rebuked both doctrines when He walked the earth, it was just that then he called them the Pharisees (Dispensationalists) and Sadducees (Similar to preterists).

Jesus rebuked them both and established another way. There was a kingdom He was currently setting up (not 2000 years in the future) but it was not going to be a physical kingdom. Thus he made the Pharisees angry.

Yet it is an ongoing Kingdom that will last forever, and there will be a resurrection of the dead unto eternal life thus making the Sadducees angry.

houston 06-18-2014 08:50 PM

Re: The Appeal of Preterism
 
Good grief

Sean 06-18-2014 09:57 PM

Re: The Appeal of Preterism
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1319759)
I have studied preterism in depth and at first it makes more sense than dispensationalism.

But that is not saying much as dispensationalism is so flawed it is pitiful.

Preterism is the ditch on the other side of the road from the ditch of dispensationalism/futurism. But both are ditches.

I take a more balanced approach of a cyclic view of Revelations. One commentator called it the dramatic/cyclic approach.

There are many undeniable tenents of preterism, yet catholics believe some truths also.

My problem with the doctrine is that true preterism, taken in it's entire package, does away with everything that we as Apostolics hold dear. Not just the rapture but they will discard everything and put it at 70AD. Most preterists do not believe in the spirit world, they do not believe in any working of the Spirit of God in gifts, they really don't believe in much except eat drink and be merry for tommorrow we die.

Yet I am an ardent apposer of the false doctrine of dispensationalism. It has it's problems in that it must put everything into the future and makes it all physical.

Jesus rebuked both doctrines when He walked the earth, it was just that then he called them the Pharisees (Dispensationalists) and Sadducees (Similar to preterists).

Jesus rebuked them both and established another way. There was a kingdom He was currently setting up (not 2000 years in the future) but it was not going to be a physical kingdom. Thus he made the Pharisees angry.

Yet it is an ongoing Kingdom that will last forever, and there will be a resurrection of the dead unto eternal life thus making the Sadducees angry.



Well whatever you decide to believe in the middle of the road. It needs a name...howabout dramatic/cyclicism?

jfrog 06-19-2014 12:38 AM

Re: The Appeal of Preterism
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1319759)
I have studied preterism in depth and at first it makes more sense than dispensationalism.

But that is not saying much as dispensationalism is so flawed it is pitiful.

Preterism is the ditch on the other side of the road from the ditch of dispensationalism/futurism. But both are ditches.

I take a more balanced approach of a cyclic view of Revelations. One commentator called it the dramatic/cyclic approach.

There are many undeniable tenents of preterism, yet catholics believe some truths also.

My problem with the doctrine is that true preterism, taken in it's entire package, does away with everything that we as Apostolics hold dear. Not just the rapture but they will discard everything and put it at 70AD. Most preterists do not believe in the spirit world, they do not believe in any working of the Spirit of God in gifts, they really don't believe in much except eat drink and be merry for tommorrow we die.

Yet I am an ardent apposer of the false doctrine of dispensationalism. It has it's problems in that it must put everything into the future and makes it all physical.

Jesus rebuked both doctrines when He walked the earth, it was just that then he called them the Pharisees (Dispensationalists) and Sadducees (Similar to preterists).

Jesus rebuked them both and established another way. There was a kingdom He was currently setting up (not 2000 years in the future) but it was not going to be a physical kingdom. Thus he made the Pharisees angry.

Yet it is an ongoing Kingdom that will last forever, and there will be a resurrection of the dead unto eternal life thus making the Sadducees angry.

Interesting thoughts.

Dante 06-19-2014 01:37 AM

Re: The Appeal of Preterism
 
Preterism is far more systematically consistent than any other formulation of eschatology.

Michael The Disciple 06-19-2014 01:58 AM

Re: The Appeal of Preterism
 
The appeal of preterism is clear. It means Christians don't have to go through the great tribulation! It's effect is the same as pre trib. It removes the teaching of Jesus that saints go through the great tribulation.

That is quite popular!


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