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Dordrecht 11-28-2013 11:04 AM

More aborted people go to heaven....
 
I had a look at the US abortion figures.
It's mind boggling.

Never mind the total world figures.

Are there more aborted babies going to heaven than Christians?
Judging by the figures it might be the case.

Truthseeker 11-28-2013 11:35 AM

Re: More aborted people go to heaven....
 
This why some the challenge the existed of hell say if there is a hell then abortion doctors are saving more souls then the church

MarcBee 11-28-2013 12:56 PM

Re: More aborted people go to heaven....
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1290573)
This why some the challenge the existed of hell say if there is a hell then abortion doctors are saving more souls then the church

From Rick Warren's blockbuster book, "The Purpose Driven Life,"

<<"Because God made you for a reason, he also decided when you would be born and how long you would live. He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death. The Bible says, "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16] There is also this: Regardless of the circumstances of your birth or who your parents are, God had a plan in creating you. ">>

Therefore, since your god makes NO mistakes, it's necessary to conclude that your god, if omniscient, expects each and every abortion to manifest itself at the divinely determined time and place. Those people get an immediate ride to heaven (even if they are composed of 8 cells) whereas the rest of humanity may or may not enter heaven. So, consider the percentage of Americans who make the correct decisions about God, and go on to live the correct (Apostolic) life. Considering how long your ETERNITY is compared with the salvific-riskiness of life on earth, if you were given a choice to be (either) born or aborted, which would you choose? It's a slam-dunk decision, at least based on the obvious data. Aborted fetuses are very, very lucky, especially if aborted in a muslim, or any non-Christian nation.

Furthermore, the human female body naturally spontaneously aborts about half of all fertilized eggs, and the women usually doesn't even know when it happens. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage). Therefore, any spontaneously aborted 8-cell embryo is WAY MORE SAVED than any Apostolic believer reading AFF. Of course, you will disagree, somehow.

End-of-movie disclaimer,
"No babies were harmed in the making of this population."



:icecream

Dordrecht 11-29-2013 07:56 AM

Re: More aborted people go to heaven....
 
There goes another thread down the sewer.............:blah:tantrum:tantrum

MarcBee 11-29-2013 08:36 AM

Re: More aborted people go to heaven....
 
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Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1290608)
There goes another thread down the sewer.............:blah:tantrum:tantrum

:dogpat
Ok, then, Timmy Talk, so this great thread can carry on otherwise.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...11#post1290611

bishoph 11-29-2013 12:02 PM

Re: More aborted people go to heaven....
 
Let me stir the pot a bit.......allow me to play the "devil's advocate" ......what scriptures are used to say that these aborted babies go to heaven?

Dordrecht 11-29-2013 05:16 PM

Re: More aborted people go to heaven....
 
Part of God's nature is mercy and He bestows His mercy and His grace on whom He will. Since God is all-knowing, He knows which babies will not have a chance at life outside the womb and if he wishes He can save them like David's son.

J4Truth 11-29-2013 06:20 PM

Re: More aborted people go to heaven....
 
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Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1290646)
Let me stir the pot a bit.......allow me to play the "devil's advocate" ......what scriptures are used to say that these aborted babies go to heaven?

Well at the White Throne Judgement says the dead small and great stands before God and is judge according to their works. What works can an unborn baby be even judge by?

Truthseeker 11-29-2013 06:24 PM

Re: More aborted people go to heaven....
 
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Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1290646)
Let me stir the pot a bit.......allow me to play the "devil's advocate" ......what scriptures are used to say that these aborted babies go to heaven?

None. Do you think they go to hell? My first pastor preached children went to help if parents not saved.

Lafon 11-29-2013 06:52 PM

Re: More aborted people go to heaven....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1290646)
Let me stir the pot a bit.......allow me to play the "devil's advocate" ......what scriptures are used to say that these aborted babies go to heaven?


The answer is rather easily determined when one considers the explicit implications of the first recorded statement that Christ Jesus uttered as He began the teaching session with His chosen disciples while seated atop the mount ...

"Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:3, KJV)

The English word "spirit" derives from the Greek word "pneuma," meaning "breath"; and the English word "poor" is translated from the Greek word "ptochos," which implies to be "destitute."

In the referenced statement of our Lord we discover that He used the word "poor" in the metaphorical sense to infer that that soul which is born destitute of the "breath" which gives both body and soul "life" (see James 2:26, KJV) (whether it be by way of abortion or stillborn), automatically gains eternal life in the kingdom of heaven. (see also Job 3:11 & 16, KJV)

IMHO though, this factual truth does NOT justify the abortion of a fetus, regardless of whatever excuse one contrives, for once God places a soul that He has created in the womb of a woman, who is anyone to say what great and wondrous things it might be capable of doing for the furtherance of the kingdom of God if given the opportunity to develop into maturity and a live birth.


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