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larrylyates 05-27-2013 07:56 PM

Terror in London
 
I admit that MOST Muslims do not want to kill innocent people. The overwhelming majority of Muslims never commit terrorism.

What should be clear to everyone, however, is that a small minority of Muslims have been convinced (or convinced themselves) that they should attack and kill innocent people.

I think the London attack of May 22, 2013 is most instructive for a few reasons.
1. It happened in broad daylight (like the Boston bombing).
2. It happened not in Iraq or Afghanistan, but on a public street IN an Allied nation (allies in the "War Against Terrorism").

Perhaps THE most troubling thing is the reporting of the event follows the same pattern as the thrust of the criticism on this page: our hesitation to call Muslim terrorism by name.

In the immediate reporting of this attack in London ABC News and Brian Williams could not bring themselves to give an accurate account. One attacker, who seems anxious to be the subject of a video, clearly states that he has killed this man for Allah: "By Allah we swear by the almighty Allah and we will never stop fighting you until you leave us alone."

NBC never mentions this fact. This should not surprise as President Obama has not called this terrorism either. As of three days post attack, the President has not clearly mentioned the incident.

Then we have Islamic clerics, speaking of the attacker on video as "a normal, practicing Muslim...a family man, a very calm and non-violent man...even from the most recent clip he was concerned and apologizing to any women and children who were there." [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zvbt3os7fY">]

Yes, it is quite important that we not hack, stab and kill someone in front of our women and children. Now, it could be that this cleric did say something to denounce the violent attack, but I doubt it. Typical news reports are certainly going to publish such an admission.

I hear some claiming that we are subject to such violence because we have troops in Muslim countries. Does anyone really believe that Muslim terrorism will stop as soon as our troops are removed from the Middle East?

What is amazing is that I will be verbally attacked by my statements here as if I have called for violence against Muslims. The PC environment we inhabit now refuses to call Islamic terrorism by what it is AND condemns those who simply name the reality.

There are not millions of Muslim terrorists.
But it only takes two to put incite terror such as what happened in Boston and London.

Walks_in_islam 05-27-2013 08:19 PM

Re: Terror in London
 
I believe he killed those men for Nigeria and not for "Allah" and all the major networks, including Faux News, reported this

Do you to read up on and brief yourself on Nigerian history under British rule and kindly learn to discern between religion and politics.

imreedemed 05-27-2013 09:29 PM

Re: Terror in London
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 1255186)
I believe he killed those men for Nigeria and not for "Allah" and all the major networks, including Faux News, reported this

Do you to read up on and brief yourself on Nigerian history under British rule and kindly learn to discern between religion and politics.

Liar! He never mentioned Nigeria. He condemned the killings being conducted by the british forces in the muslims countries (our lands)

Nigeria is fighting an islamic militant group BOKO HARAM. they are trying to establish sharia law in the country.

Mali (with the assistance of France troops) is driving out the islamists who had managed to "sharialize" a large part of northern mali.

Kenya troops (along with the AU troops) are still fighting the infamous Islamic group - Al Shabaab. Not a week goes by without these militia group killing and/or kidnapping soldiers/ cops/ humanitarian agents in northern kenya/somali.

imreedemed 05-27-2013 09:36 PM

Re: Terror in London
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxrtaHkyw5w

larrylyates 05-28-2013 03:14 AM

Re: Terror in London
 
What does a murderous jihadist terrorist have to do to get some recognition for his cause? You hack a British soldier to death in broad daylight on a London street while shouting “Allah Akbar” and then “swear by the almighty Allah” that you’ll never stop fighting, and the U.S. broadcast networks still can’t bring themselves to utter a word about Islam.

True, the ABC CBS and NBC evening broadcasts called the attack “terrorism,” but for all the information they gave viewers, the attackers might have been Basque separatists or animal rights zealots.

On “Nightly News” NBC anchor Brian Williams said the attackers allowed “people to take video while they vent their message about religion and politics.” Correspondent Michelle Kosinski said one of the attackers “made a long political statement, weapons still in his blood-covered hands.”

CBS “Evening News with Scott Pelley” went a bit further, as reporter Charlie D’Agata mentioned that “Witnesses said that the men shouted ‘god is great’ in Arabic during the attacks.” Hmmm. Presbyterians maybe?

Over at ABC, on “World News with Diane Sawyer,” reporter Lama Hasan would only say British authorities were trying to find out including “whether or not one of [the attackers] is of African origin with ties to terrorist groups.” Of the one attacker’s video rant, Dian Sawyer said, “officials in the United States and the United Kingdom are studying the meaning of this tape.” Yes, it’s a real head-scratcher.

By contrast, the U.K. media seems to be calling the attacks what they are. The BBC (no right-wing media shop) reported that one of the attackers told a witness, “I killed him because he kills Muslims over there and I am fed up that people kill Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.” The BBC also said that “The Muslim Council of Britain said the murder was ‘a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this unreservedly,’” and noted that “At least two plots by Islamist extremists to kill soldiers in the UK have been foiled in recent years.”

This morning, the networks did identify radical Islam as the attackers' motivation, but their initial reluctance in the face of obvious evidence fits a pattern, as when they wouldn't call Hamas terrorists while Hamas was making terrorist attacks on Israel.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew...#ixzz2UZpY2bf8

Walks_in_islam 05-31-2013 12:34 PM

Re: Terror in London
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imreedemed (Post 1255195)
Liar! He never mentioned Nigeria. He condemned the killings being conducted by the british forces in the muslims countries (our lands)

Nigeria is fighting an islamic militant group BOKO HARAM. they are trying to establish sharia law in the country.

Mali (with the assistance of France troops) is driving out the islamists who had managed to "sharialize" a large part of northern mali.

Kenya troops (along with the AU troops) are still fighting the infamous Islamic group - Al Shabaab. Not a week goes by without these militia group killing and/or kidnapping soldiers/ cops/ humanitarian agents in northern "kenya/somali.

Liar? He didn't mention what?

"The only reason we killed this man today is because Muslims are every day by british soldiers"
"In our lands women see this every day"
Get out of our lands"
"Leave our lands and you will live in peace"
"We pick one person, your bombs wipe out a whole family" (Bombs in places where I lied that he never mentioned? Must be imaginary bombs in imaginary places DUH)

Political or religious?

So name calling is allowed now? <grin> I will definitely remember that when it comes to you.

Pliny 05-31-2013 05:15 PM

Re: Terror in London
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 1256649)
Liar? He didn't mention what?

"The only reason we killed this man today is because Muslims are every day by british soldiers"
"In our lands women see this every day"
Get out of our lands"
"Leave our lands and you will live in peace"
"We pick one person, your bombs wipe out a whole family" (Bombs in places where I lied that he never mentioned? Must be imaginary bombs in imaginary places DUH)

Political or religious?

So name calling is allowed now? <grin> I will definitely remember that when it comes to you.

I guess you missed the plural usage of "lands". He is referring to all Muslim LANDS - plural. It is not about Nigeria which would have been land - singular.

Walks_in_islam 05-31-2013 05:21 PM

Re: Terror in London
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pliny (Post 1256765)
I guess you missed the plural usage of "lands". He is referring to all Muslim LANDS - plural. It is not about Nigeria which would have been land - singular.

He was Nigerian or so the news said. Land or lands doesn't make a difference anyway it is about motivation.

Walks_in_islam 05-31-2013 05:25 PM

Re: Terror in London
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imreedemed (Post 1255195)
Liar! He never mentioned Nigeria. He condemned the killings being conducted by the british forces in the muslims countries (our lands)

Nigeria is fighting an islamic militant group BOKO HARAM. they are trying to establish sharia law in the country.

Mali (with the assistance of France troops) is driving out the islamists who had managed to "sharialize" a large part of northern mali.

Kenya troops (along with the AU troops) are still fighting the infamous Islamic group - Al Shabaab. Not a week goes by without these militia group killing and/or kidnapping soldiers/ cops/ humanitarian agents in northern kenya/somali.

BOKO HARAM means "western education is forbidden"

Is fighting to remove western influence from your country religious or political? The Nigerian government is otherwise run by Muslims.


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