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TGBTG 04-14-2011 02:08 PM

Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
Eph 1:13-14
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

How does the above verse factor into OSAS and OSNAS? In other words, can someone who has been sealed by God become unsealed?

Opinions/thoughts/answers...

TGBTG 04-14-2011 04:01 PM

Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
bump

houston 04-14-2011 04:20 PM

Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
osnas?

NorCal 04-14-2011 04:23 PM

Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
What God gives, let no MAN take away. God does not unseal, mans actions do.

TGBTG 04-14-2011 04:30 PM

Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1058133)
osnas?

Once Saved Not Always Saved

TGBTG 04-14-2011 04:30 PM

Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCal (Post 1058134)
What God gives, let no MAN take away. God does not unseal, mans actions do.

Thanks. If you could provide some scriptures too, that'd be helpful...

mfblume 04-14-2011 04:57 PM

Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
The SEAL of the Holy Ghost is simply an authentication. It has nothing to do with "unsealing" as though something can be undone. A seal in this instance is a validation, and nothing more. So it is apples and oranges to whether or not someone can lose salvation. Losing salvation or not does not enter into this picture.

TGBTG 04-14-2011 05:48 PM

Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1058142)
The SEAL of the Holy Ghost is simply an authentication. It has nothing to do with "unsealing" as though something can be undone. A seal in this instance is a validation, and nothing more. So it is apples and oranges to whether or not someone can lose salvation. Losing salvation or not does not enter into this picture.

ok thanks

Sam 04-14-2011 08:55 PM

Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1058142)
The SEAL of the Holy Ghost is simply an authentication. It has nothing to do with "unsealing" as though something can be undone. A seal in this instance is a validation, and nothing more. So it is apples and oranges to whether or not someone can lose salvation. Losing salvation or not does not enter into this picture.

sealing can also designate ownership and can designate preservation.

not getting into the eternal security question here,
I have problems with both sides of that issue.

mfblume 04-14-2011 09:18 PM

Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1058171)
sealing can also designate ownership and can designate preservation.

not getting into the eternal security question here,
I have problems with both sides of that issue.

But in the context of the passage in question, I believe authentication is the issue.


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