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Dedicated Mind 11-11-2010 12:57 AM

Sex On Church Day
 
We talked about this a few years ago, but I wanted to hear from our newer posters. Is it wrong to have sex before going to church? Some have agreed with me and others have mocked. Is sex within marriage a carnal act, a spiritual act or neutral? I believe that a couple should be "in the spirit" on the day of a church service. How can you engage in sex, then hours later expect to be in the presence of God, praying for a move of the spirit or for miracles to happen? Shouldn't couples abstain from the flesh on church days? If you are having a weeklong revival then nights are open after church. What does "unclean" mean in OT terms? Doesn't unclean mean you cannot partake of the temple service?

Lev 15:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh, [because of] his issue he [is] unclean.

Socialite 11-11-2010 01:24 AM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
Your presupposition is that sex is less than God's ideal for us, a product of the curse and not the blessing of the Lord itself.

I'm not sure I follow any of the rest of the logic in this particular argument.

I'm not an advocate for sex before gathering together, but I'm not even sure why we'd oppose it. If you feel it necessary to collect your thoughts and composure before gathering together, then go for it. That goes for radio, reading, jogging, watching TV, eating, etc.

Nothing can make a couple feel more perfectly united, together and one, than having sex on the Lord's day! :)

:thumbsup

Praxeas 11-11-2010 01:29 AM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
Is this a joke? What happened to faith? Sex in marriage is not a sin

Praxeas 11-11-2010 01:31 AM

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Maybe we need the same Holiness Police checking the couples bedrooms that checked to make sure little girls were not wearing pajamas.

jfrog 11-11-2010 06:01 AM

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If it keeps them from doing it in the church bathroom.... then I say go for it!

Pro31:28 11-11-2010 06:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986201)
We talked about this a few years ago, but I wanted to hear from our newer posters. Is it wrong to have sex before going to church? Some have agreed with me and others have mocked. Is sex within marriage a carnal act, a spiritual act or neutral? I believe that a couple should be "in the spirit" on the day of a church service. How can you engage in sex, then hours later expect to be in the presence of God, praying for a move of the spirit or for miracles to happen? Shouldn't couples abstain from the flesh on church days? If you are having a weeklong revival then nights are open after church. What does "unclean" mean in OT terms? Doesn't unclean mean you cannot partake of the temple service?

Lev 15:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh, [because of] his issue he [is] unclean.

Where do you get the idea that sex is "in the flesh"? Sex is a beautiful manifestation of love between a husband and wife. My husband is my greatest gift from God, and I believe that sex a wonderful part of that gift. Maybe if fewer couples we "abstaining" there would be less extramarital activity in the church.
I think that when couples are not in synch, that gives place to the devil for temptation.

Besides, if God had anything against sex, why would he put the Song of Solomon in the Bible?

Aquila 11-11-2010 06:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986201)
We talked about this a few years ago, but I wanted to hear from our newer posters. Is it wrong to have sex before going to church? Some have agreed with me and others have mocked. Is sex within marriage a carnal act, a spiritual act or neutral? I believe that a couple should be "in the spirit" on the day of a church service. How can you engage in sex, then hours later expect to be in the presence of God, praying for a move of the spirit or for miracles to happen? Shouldn't couples abstain from the flesh on church days? If you are having a weeklong revival then nights are open after church. What does "unclean" mean in OT terms? Doesn't unclean mean you cannot partake of the temple service?

Lev 15:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh, [because of] his issue he [is] unclean.

Physical intimacy can be both very spiritual or just carnal... deepending on the frame of mind and objectives of the couple at the moment. Waking up at 6AM and waking your wife lovingly to make love to her isn't carnal. Many couples have actually prayed, thanked God, and worshipped while making love. It's loving. It's God's design. It's God's gift. It's God given joy and pleasure. However, there certain kinds of private "love play" that isn't really "loving" or "spiritual" that many if not most couples engage in on occasion. I'd say that if making love to your spouse on a "church day" hinders you personally, avoid it. Some feel more alive and blessed of God. On them, I'd lay no burden.

Is going potty #2 before church carnal? lol Making love is far more spiritual, tender, and holy.

The verse you offer is OT Law code. Abolished.

Also, there's a fundamental problem with the line of reasoning you offer. You know I'm an advocate of House Church. One thing I know and remember is that MANY, if not most, of those attending institutional churches view their Christianity in a way in which the day they attend service is their "day of worship". Biblically speaking... EVERY DAY is an equally sacred day of worship. Also, life in the home should be lived out just as sacredly as the few hours one might spend in an elaborate religious building on a given day. So the whole "church day" vs. "secular day" is just lost on me personally.

In my opinion, a couple should be able to worship, pray, have Bible study, grab a bite to eat, make love, and then worship God aftewards with hands raised and no shame should they choose. If they are centered on Jesus and happy, reveling in one another's love... I see no harm.

Howbeit, when engaged in prayer and fasting for a specific purpose... it is biblical to abstain from physical forms of intimacy.

rgcraig 11-11-2010 07:01 AM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986201)
We talked about this a few years ago, but I wanted to hear from our newer posters. Is it wrong to have sex before going to church? Some have agreed with me and others have mocked. Is sex within marriage a carnal act, a spiritual act or neutral? I believe that a couple should be "in the spirit" on the day of a church service. How can you engage in sex, then hours later expect to be in the presence of God, praying for a move of the spirit or for miracles to happen? Shouldn't couples abstain from the flesh on church days? If you are having a weeklong revival then nights are open after church. What does "unclean" mean in OT terms? Doesn't unclean mean you cannot partake of the temple service?

Lev 15:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh, [because of] his issue he [is] unclean.

Really?

And what does "a couple in the spirit" look like? What happens when the wife is having trouble with her hair and is running late and the husband is yelling at her to hurry up? Does that mean that if the kids are lolly gagging around and fussing you don't yell at them to hurry up so you aren't late? Does that mean you get in the car and the teen that borrowed it the night before didn't put gas in it so you have to stop on the way to church to get gas and while there someone cuts you off so they get to the pump before you and you stay cool?

Please.

More people fuss and argue before they get to church and that surely isn't "in the spirit", so I'm thinking maybe they need to have sex to start the day off lovingly and close - - you know, a spiritual experience before they go thank God for all they have.

Aquila 11-11-2010 07:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 986235)
Really?

And was does "a couple in the spirit" look like? What happens when the wife is having trouble with her hair and is running late and the husband is yelling at her to hurry up? Does that mean that if the kids are lolly gagging around and fussing you don't yell at them to hurry up so you aren't late? Does that mean you get in the car and the teen that borrowed it the night before didn't put gas in it so you have to stop on the way to church to get gas and while there someone cuts you off so they get to the pump before you and you stay cool?

Please.

More people fuss and argue before they get to church and that surely isn't "in the spirit", so I'm thinking maybe they need to have sex to start the day off lovingly and close - - you know, a spiritual experience before they go thank God for all they have.

Great point. lol :thumbsup

rgcraig 11-11-2010 07:06 AM

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And shouldn't we live in the spirit, walk in the spirit daily? What's so special about Sunday? This brings up one of my pet peeves - - - people that say things like, "boy, God really showed out today" or "God showed up" - - WHAT? God is in you, you bring him to the corporate worship - - he's already there - he's just waiting for you to shut up long enough for him to have a word in. :bliss


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