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Guy 03-15-2007 08:12 PM

Who is more holy?
 
The subject of this thread came to me as I thought of how often NFCF and AFF have been maligned as being hotbeds of carnality, bad spirits and preacher bashing.
While not wishing to address previously banned topics let me state that in my opinion AFF has taken a stronger and more godly position than those who proclaim loudly to be ultra-holy. I was mildly shocked to read the "expose" material that had been posted on CAF. (And the part I read was insubstantive at best.)
I was dismayed at the spirit of sectarianism between "the holy" and the rest of the movement that was portrayed - all the while bashing preachers who are not on the right side of the fence.
So, my hats off to the admin of this forum - you've shown a more godly attitude and spirit than those who loudly portray their righteousness above others.
Please don't turn this into a thread on the forbidde topic. I just wanted to express my sentiments toward the admin of this forum.
Guy

Felicity 03-15-2007 08:26 PM

This whole "holiness" thing the way we talk about it most of the time is somewhat of a joke .... well let's change that to a huge joke ...... viewed in light of God's holiness. Nothing we can do can even being to measure up to God's standard of holiness. It's untenable and unattainable. The only true holiness we have is a result of His grace and mercy. We don't merit it that's for sure.

When Isaiah saw the Lord what did he say? He cried out.......... "Woe is me!!!! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts."

Can one single one of us say anything different? If you think you can then you haven't seen the Lord! Simple as that!

:)

Scott Hutchinson 03-15-2007 08:29 PM

The only way any of us is truly Holy is by God's grace.of course being in grace manifests itself in outward behaviour and well as causing us to have a right spirit.

rgcraig 03-15-2007 08:30 PM

Guy, to your point - thanks for the vote of confidence in the admin here! It's appreciated.

Guy 03-15-2007 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 42395)
Guy, to your point - thanks for the vote of confidence in the admin here! It's appreciated.

Renda
The carnal side of my character would love to carry on the fight. I hate seeing these actions going unchallenged - but it is no doubt better for me.

rgcraig 03-15-2007 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Guy (Post 42407)
Renda
The carnal side of my character would love to carry on the fight. I hate seeing these actions going unchallenged - but it is no doubt better for me.

I understand because it is becoming clearer that one side is not being heard, but taking the high road is always best. Hopefully, at a later time when things are settled we will be able to understand just what really took place.

In the meantime, let's pray for all involved!

The Antagonist 03-15-2007 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 42389)
This whole "holiness" thing the way we talk about it most of the time is somewhat of a joke .... well let's change that to a huge joke ...... viewed in light of God's holiness. Nothing we can do can even being to measure up to God's standard of holiness. It's untenable and unattainable. The only true holiness we have is a result of His grace and mercy. We don't merit it that's for sure.

When Isaiah saw the Lord what did he say? He cried out.......... "Woe is me!!!! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts."

Can one single one of us say anything different? If you think you can then you haven't seen the Lord! Simple as that!

:)

Girl,

I'm persuaded you've got more brains in the earlobe than most have from eye tooth to folic.

Are you sure that Isaiah did not say, "Holy is me for I'm a humdinger for I am a man of smooth lips and dwell in the midst of oratorical lips, for my eyes have seen the King because I AM the king."

I am fully persuaded that few anymore know anything of true holiness and true righteousness. Too many of us are far too impressed with ourselves to see the king.

Coonskinner 03-15-2007 08:55 PM

I don't think this is an issue of holiness.

The situation with Brother ***** is a matter to be dealt with by the ministry.

Please remember that there is likely more to the story than most of us are aware of.

This is not a private environment like that one, so it is inappropriate for it to be discussed here.

Coonskinner 03-15-2007 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Antagonist (Post 42428)
Girl,

I'm persuaded you've got more brains in the earlobe than most have from eye tooth to folic.

Are you sure that Isaiah did not say, "Holy is me for I'm a humdinger for I am a man of smooth lips and dwell in the midst of oratorical lips, for my eyes have seen the King because I AM the king."

I am fully persuaded that few anymore know anything of true holiness and true righteousness. Too many of us are far too impressed with ourselves to see the king.

My Aunt Felicity is definitely one of the brighter minds and clearest thinkers around tese parts.

Guy 03-15-2007 08:56 PM

Auntie and Feladacious
Stop hijacking my thread!
Holiness is how long your hair and sleeves are and whether or not you wear jewelry or not.


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