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Esaias 02-08-2019 02:30 AM

Hair, sleeves, pantsuits, jewelry, and makeup
 
Figured this place could use some CPR, it's pretty much flatlining around here lately...

diakonos 02-08-2019 04:53 AM

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I believe that the woman’s (additional) covering is a veil, per the Apostle Paul. However, I wouldn’t want my hypothetical wife and/or daughter(s) to wear one. They look tacky.

Apostolic1ness 02-08-2019 06:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1557809)

I believe that the woman’s (additional) covering is a veil, per the Apostle Paul. However, I wouldn’t want my hypothetical wife and/or daughter(s) to wear one. They look tacky.

If its additional could it be a hoodie there stylish. or maybe a ball cap.

Truthseeker 02-08-2019 06:26 AM

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Hair=long hair for the sisters, short hair on the brothers.

Sleeves= no tank tops, decent modest sleeves.

Pantsuits: While there is no direct defining scripture for it: Pants on men and skirts for ladies.

Jewelry: Almost all churches have some adornment, it's just a matter of what and how much. I personally wear none. There really isn't a complete prohibition against it.


Makeup: Even if no bible against it, why would a sister want to wear lipstick and black eyeliner and the such? The motive tells all. Some wear foundation if they have skin problems. My wife eyebrows are gone so she makes some that are not outlandish, but she isn't doing it to be sensual.

phareztamar 02-08-2019 08:00 AM

Re: Hair, sleeves, pantsuits, jewelry, and makeup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1557815)
Hair=long hair for the sisters, short hair on the brothers.

Sleeves= no tank tops, decent modest sleeves.

Pantsuits: While there is no direct defining scripture for it: Pants on men and skirts for ladies.

Jewelry: Almost all churches have some adornment, it's just a matter of what and how much. I personally wear none. There really isn't a complete prohibition against it.


Makeup: Even if no bible against it, why would a sister want to wear lipstick and black eyeliner and the such? The motive tells all. Some wear foundation if they have skin problems. My wife eyebrows are gone so she makes some that are not outlandish, but she isn't doing it to be sensual.

:thumbsup

aegsm76 02-08-2019 08:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1557808)
Figured this place could use some CPR, it's pretty much flatlining around here lately...

Yep. Since Aquila has been gone it has been pretty dull.
I guess I need to create another user name as a liberal...
Since I am evidently one of the few that has never had another user name.

LOVE JESUS 02-08-2019 08:53 AM

Re: Hair, sleeves, pantsuits, jewelry, and makeup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1557815)
Hair=long hair for the sisters, short hair on the brothers.

Sleeves= no tank tops, decent modest sleeves.

Pantsuits: While there is no direct defining scripture for it: Pants on men and skirts for ladies.

Jewelry: Almost all churches have some adornment, it's just a matter of what and how much. I personally wear none. There really isn't a complete prohibition against it.


Makeup: Even if no bible against it, why would a sister want to wear lipstick and black eyeliner and the such? The motive tells all. Some wear foundation if they have skin problems. My wife eyebrows are gone so she makes some that are not outlandish, but she isn't doing it to be sensual.

If there is no scripture for the sleeves, pants and makeup, WHY is it being preached in our pulpits? I have never understood that. Just asking.

consapente89 02-08-2019 09:07 AM

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Hair=uncut, un-permed and un-dyed hair on ladies and short hair kept off the ears and collars for men.

Sleeves= below the elbow

Pantsuits: pants on men and at least mid calf length skirts or dresses on ladies. Pantyhose on the ladies are preferred. Also, no splits in the skirts.

Jewelry: no gold, silver or pearls. No finger rings, toe rings, ear rings or nose rings. Watches should be simple and not have the appearance of gold, silver, diamonds or pearls.


Makeup: No makeup of any kind.


Of course, you can do ALL the above and if don't have Jesus on the inside, you are still lost. Some of the biggest devils we are fighting in the church today are dressed in "holiness". Pray through, pray through, pray through. Clean the inside and make the outside presentable to a Holy God.

hometown guy 02-08-2019 09:50 AM

Re: Hair, sleeves, pantsuits, jewelry, and makeup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1557821)
Hair=uncut, un-permed and un-dyed hair on ladies and short hair kept off the ears and collars for men.

Sleeves= below the elbow

Pantsuits: pants on men and at least mid calf length skirts or dresses on ladies. Pantyhose on the ladies are preferred. Also, no splits in the skirts.

Jewelry: no gold, silver or pearls. No finger rings, toe rings, ear rings or nose rings. Watches should be simple and not have the appearance of gold, silver, diamonds or pearls.


Makeup: No makeup of any kind.


Of course, you can do ALL the above and if don't have Jesus on the inside, you are still lost. Some of the biggest devils we are fighting in the church today are dressed in "holiness". Pray through, pray through, pray through. Clean the inside and make the outside presentable to a Holy God.


Very true... you can dress the outside right and not be Holy but you can not be Holy on the inside and not be dressing right on the outside.

consapente89 02-08-2019 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1557823)
Very true... you can dress the outside right and not be Holy but you can not be Holy on the inside and not be dressing right on the outside.

Amen

diakonos 02-08-2019 02:42 PM

Re: Hair, sleeves, pantsuits, jewelry, and makeup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1557821)
Hair=uncut, un-permed and un-dyed hair on ladies and short hair kept off the ears and collars for men.

Sleeves= below the elbow

Pantsuits: pants on men and at least mid calf length skirts or dresses on ladies. Pantyhose on the ladies are preferred. Also, no splits in the skirts.

Jewelry: no gold, silver or pearls. No finger rings, toe rings, ear rings or nose rings. Watches should be simple and not have the appearance of gold, silver, diamonds or pearls.


Makeup: No makeup of any kind.


Of course, you can do ALL the above and if don't have Jesus on the inside, you are still lost. Some of the biggest devils we are fighting in the church today are dressed in "holiness". Pray through, pray through, pray through. Clean the inside and make the outside presentable to a Holy God.

Shirts below the elbow, but no shorts below the knee? Seems inconsistent.

n david 02-08-2019 03:23 PM

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I like asking evangelists for memorable moments in their ministry. One told a story of being asked to preach a week-long revival at a church. He said he arrived at the airport curb to meet the Pastor of the church where he would be preaching and the Pastor shook his hand, gave him some money for food and said sorry, but I can't allow you to preach the revival. The evangelist asked what happened and the Pastor told him he doesn't allow wedding rings. The evangelist offered to remove the ring while he was there and the Pastor rejected the offer, said simply taking it off isn't enough.

The Pastor got in his car and left the evangelist at the airport.

I understand personal convictions, but that was rude and wrong. The Pastor should have asked about it before scheduling the evangelist and leaving him at the airport by himself.

hometown guy 02-08-2019 03:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1557828)
I like asking evangelists for memorable moments in their ministry. One told a story of being asked to preach a week-long revival at a church. He said he arrived at the airport curb to meet the Pastor of the church where he would be preaching and the Pastor shook his hand, gave him some money for food and said sorry, but I can't allow you to preach the revival. The evangelist asked what happened and the Pastor told him he doesn't allow wedding rings. The evangelist offered to remove the ring while he was there and the Pastor rejected the offer, said simply taking it off isn't enough.

The Pastor got in his car and left the evangelist at the airport.

I understand personal convictions, but that was rude and wrong. The Pastor should have asked about it before scheduling the evangelist and leaving him at the airport by himself.

Thats not a personal conviction that’s jewelry.

n david 02-08-2019 04:26 PM

Re: Hair, sleeves, pantsuits, jewelry, and makeup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1557829)
Thats not a personal conviction that’s jewelry.

It's a personal conviction. :nod

consapente89 02-08-2019 07:35 PM

Re: Hair, sleeves, pantsuits, jewelry, and makeup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1557828)
I like asking evangelists for memorable moments in their ministry. One told a story of being asked to preach a week-long revival at a church. He said he arrived at the airport curb to meet the Pastor of the church where he would be preaching and the Pastor shook his hand, gave him some money for food and said sorry, but I can't allow you to preach the revival. The evangelist asked what happened and the Pastor told him he doesn't allow wedding rings. The evangelist offered to remove the ring while he was there and the Pastor rejected the offer, said simply taking it off isn't enough.

The Pastor got in his car and left the evangelist at the airport.

I understand personal convictions, but that was rude and wrong. The Pastor should have asked about it before scheduling the evangelist and leaving him at the airport by himself.

Definitely a mistake on the pastor’s part in not knowing the man he had asked to come preach for him. On the other hand, I have to respect the man for being up front with him and taking a stand for a BIBLE conviction.

Tithesmeister 02-08-2019 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1557840)
Definitely a mistake on the pastor’s part in not knowing the man he had asked to come preach for him. On the other hand, I have to respect the man for being up front with him and taking a stand for a BIBLE conviction.

I’m with n David. It’s a personal conviction. It is not biblical.

hometown guy 02-08-2019 08:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1557832)
It's a personal conviction. :nod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1557842)
I’m with n David. It’s a personal conviction. It is not biblical.

Wearing Jewelry is a sin.

hometown guy 02-08-2019 08:35 PM

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[QUOTE=consapente89;1557840]Definitely a mistake on the pastor’s part in not knowing the man he had asked to come preach for him. On the other hand, I have to respect the man for being up front with him and taking a stand for a BIBLE conviction.[/QUOTE

I guarantee you there is more to that story.

Tithesmeister 02-08-2019 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1557843)
Wearing Jewelry is a sin.

You cannot be serious.

consapente89 02-08-2019 08:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1557845)
You cannot be serious.

Wearing jewelry is sin. In the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses...

It’s settled.:highfive

consapente89 02-08-2019 08:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1557844)

I guarantee you there is more to that story.

Most likely. However, I can see it happening as described in a time when the liberals and conservatives were in the same organization. We are living in a different day now, thank God. I think Pastors are more careful about who they have fill their pulpits and generally know what a man believes before he comes.

Tithesmeister 02-08-2019 08:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1557846)
Wearing jewelry is sin. In the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses...

It’s settled.:highfive

Ndavid and me. There’s two witnesses. So you’re right. It’s settled. . . . And you’re using a scripture reference out of its intended context.

JamesGlen 02-08-2019 08:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1557847)
Most likely. However, I can see it happening as described in a time when the liberals and conservatives were in the same organization. We are living in a different day now, thank God. I think Pastors are more careful about who they have fill their pulpits and generally know what a man believes before he comes.


Different day for sure....of making up rules, attempting to rewrite and add to the Bible. What a disgrace. Post scripture that supports each of ALL your rules(along with a few commentators that agree with you would be good), or erase those rules.

Flatlining indeed.

hometown guy 02-08-2019 09:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesGlen (Post 1557849)
Different day for sure....of making up rules, attempting to rewrite and add to the Bible. What a disgrace. Post scripture that supports each of ALL your rules(along with a few commentators that agree with you would be good), or erase those rules.

Flatlining indeed.

I will show you when show me in the Bible where it says not to shoot up herion.

JamesGlen 02-08-2019 09:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1557850)
I will show you when show me in the Bible where it says not to shoot up herion.

It’s agsinst the law to shoot up w heroin, and Rom. 13:1-2 says to obey the laws.

Not to mention our body is the temple, that we’re not to defile (1 Cor.3:17), and anyone on the planet older than 6 years old could tell you breaking the law shooting up with heroin is bad for our body.

Your turn.

hometown guy 02-08-2019 09:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesGlen (Post 1557851)
It’s agsinst the law, and Rom. 13:1-2 says to obey the laws.
Not to mention our body is the temple, that we’re not to defile (1 Cor.3:17), and anyone on the planet could tell you illegally shooting up with heroin is bad for our body.

Your turn.

lol ok if it wasn’t against the law then we are fine..... just in moderation it shouldn’t mess up your body so we will be good.

Tithesmeister 02-08-2019 09:18 PM

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:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1557850)
I will show you when show me in the Bible where it says not to shoot up herion.

What is herion?

I think this is what we should abide by, (it is from the Bible).


Deuteronomy 4
[2] Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

If you believe jewelry is sinful, state your case. Quote scripture, in context if possible.

:thumbsup

Tithesmeister 02-08-2019 09:23 PM

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God is certainly pro-jewelry. I must confess, I don’t wear it. I need to do better.

JamesGlen 02-08-2019 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesGlen (Post 1557851)
It’s agsinst the law to shoot up w heroin, and Rom. 13:1-2 says to obey the laws.

Not to mention our body is the temple, that we’re not to defile (1 Cor.3:17), and anyone on the planet older than 6 years old could tell you breaking the law shooting up with heroin is bad for our body.

Your turn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1557852)
lol ok if it wasn’t against the law then we are fine..... just in moderation it shouldn’t mess up your body so we will be good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1557821)
Hair=uncut, un-permed and un-dyed hair on ladies and short hair kept off the ears and collars for men.

Sleeves= below the elbow

Pantsuits: pants on men and at least mid calf length skirts or dresses on ladies. Pantyhose on the ladies are preferred. Also, no splits in the skirts.

Jewelry: no gold, silver or pearls. No finger rings, toe rings, ear rings or nose rings. Watches should be simple and not have the appearance of gold, silver, diamonds or pearls.


Makeup: No makeup of any kind.


Of course, you can do ALL the above and if don't have Jesus on the inside, you are still lost. Some of the biggest devils we are fighting in the church today are dressed in "holiness". Pray through, pray through, pray through. Clean the inside and make the outside presentable to a Holy God.



Put genuine scripture (and some supportive commentary would be nice) along side your new improved rules of religion. Start w sleeves below the elbow.

Shooting up w Heroin...that’s great. Gradeschoolers even know it’s wrong, illegal, and harmful to the body.

n david 02-08-2019 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1557847)
Most likely. However, I can see it happening as described in a time when the liberals and conservatives were in the same organization. We are living in a different day now, thank God. I think Pastors are more careful about who they have fill their pulpits and generally know what a man believes before he comes.

This was pre-affirmation statement, so yes, there were libs and cons in same org.

consapente89 02-08-2019 10:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1557848)
Ndavid and me. There’s two witnesses. So you’re right. It’s settled. . . . And you’re using a scripture reference out of its intended context.

Yes I was.

FlamingZword 02-08-2019 11:16 PM

Re: Hair, sleeves, pantsuits, jewelry, and makeup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1557809)

I believe that the woman’s (additional) covering is a veil, per the Apostle Paul. However, I wouldn’t want my hypothetical wife and/or daughter(s) to wear one. They look tacky.

per the Apostle Paul?

perhaps not, there are some other people who give a different interpretation to his writings in 1 Corinthians 11.

FlamingZword 02-08-2019 11:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1557829)
Thats not a personal conviction that’s jewelry.

There is nothing wrong with jewelry.

FlamingZword 02-08-2019 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1557843)
Wearing Jewelry is a sin.

Not it is not, there is nothing in the bible that says it is a sin.

do not confuse your own personal convictions for commandments of God.

FlamingZword 02-08-2019 11:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1557846)
Wearing jewelry is sin. In the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses...

It’s settled.:highfive

by whom?

FlamingZword 02-08-2019 11:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1557848)
Ndavid and me. There’s two witnesses. So you’re right. It’s settled. . . . And you’re using a scripture reference out of its intended context.

hey add me as a third witness against the claim that Jewelry is a sin. :)

LOVE JESUS 02-09-2019 07:36 AM

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There will be no sin in Heaven so how do we explain streets of gold, walls of jasper, gates of pearl.... just thinking...

Amanah 02-09-2019 08:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS (Post 1557872)
There will be no sin in Heaven so how do we explain streets of gold, walls of jasper, gates of pearl.... just thinking...

maybe its the difference between spiritual adornment versus us adorning ourselves out of pride.

diakonos 02-09-2019 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1557876)
maybe its the difference between spiritual adornment versus us adorning ourselves out of pride.

Do you wear whatever, or do you wear nice clothing?

Tithesmeister 02-09-2019 09:35 AM

Re: Hair, sleeves, pantsuits, jewelry, and makeup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS (Post 1557872)
There will be no sin in Heaven so how do we explain streets of gold, walls of jasper, gates of pearl.... just thinking...


Originally posted by Amanah
“maybe its the difference between spiritual adornment versus us adorning ourselves out of pride.”

Or maybe it is false. . . Made up . . .by people who “teach for doctrine the commandments of men”.

I’m still not hearing scripture quoted to support this doctrine.


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