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Truthseeker 05-07-2017 06:48 PM

Gospel assembly?
 
What you know about them?

Esaias 05-07-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1481533)
What you know about them?

Twoness. Generally very conservative (more than UPC). Open meetings, unstructured, you can go visit and stand up and testify, preach, sing a song, whatever. The one we used to visit in OKC had a fellowship dinner after Sunday meeting each week. Very nice people.

Have some strange beliefs concerning their org and their founder Sowders.

Brother Epley can tell you more.

Truthseeker 05-07-2017 08:05 PM

Re: Gospel assembly?
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1481536)
Twoness. Generally very conservative (more than UPC). Open meetings, unstructured, you can go visit and stand up and testify, preach, sing a song, whatever. The one we used to visit in OKC had a fellowship dinner after Sunday meeting each week. Very nice people.

Have some strange beliefs concerning their org and their founder Sowders.

Brother Epley can tell you more.

Do you remember some of the strange beliefs?

Esaias 05-07-2017 08:13 PM

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Sowders was the last day prophet, only their org is the church. Something like that.

Evang.Benincasa 05-07-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1481536)
Twoness. Generally very conservative (more than UPC). Open meetings, unstructured, you can go visit and stand up and testify, preach, sing a song, whatever. The one we used to visit in OKC had a fellowship dinner after Sunday meeting each week. Very nice people.

Have some strange beliefs concerning their org and their founder Sowders.

Brother Epley can tell you more.

Have one of their churches up the block.

Jermyn Davidson 05-07-2017 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1481541)
Have one of their churches up the block.

The one that is up the block from you has videos of some of their worship services posted on YOUTUBE, right?

votivesoul 05-08-2017 12:57 AM

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Is this them?

http://www.dmgac.org/Pages/PageDetail?PageId=2

-We believe that the Bible, both the Old and New Testaments, was given by inspiration of God, and is our only rule in matters of faith, doctrine, and practice.
-We believe in creation; that man was created by the direct act of God and in the image of God.
-We believe that Adam and Eve, in yielding to the temptation of Satan, became fallen creatures.
-We believe that all men are born in sin, and thus the necessity for repentance.
-We believe in the incarnation, the virgin birth, and deity of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God.
-We believe in His vicarious and substitutional death on the cross as (the) atonement for the sins of mankind by the shedding of His own blood at Calvary.
-We believe that the atonement also provides deliverance and healing for those who believe in His name.
-We believe in justification by faith, and sanctification to be the way of holiness.
-We believe that grace and works as recorded in James, chapter two, are compatible.
-We believe that justification must be sustained by obedience to God's Word.
-We believe in the resurrection of His body from the tomb, His ascension to Heaven, and that He is now our Advocate.
-We believe the church to be a direct result of the first advent and that men are to be actively drawn into it.
-We believe water baptism to be scriptural when administered to believers only.
-We believe in the necessity of the New Birth, and that this New Birth is through the regeneration by the Holy Spirit as recorded in the second chapter of Acts.
-We believe that other tongues is the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
-We believe in the restoration of Israel.
-We believe that He is personally coming again at His glorious premillenial second advent to judge the wicked, to resurrect the righteous dead, and to establish the Kingdom of God upon this earth.
-We believe that this statement of faith is a sufficient basis for Christian fellowship and that all born-again men and women who sincerely accept this, can, and should, live together in peace, and that it is their Christian duty to promote harmony among the members of the Body of Christ, and also to work together to get the Gospel to as many people as possible in the shortest period of time.

Steve Epley 05-08-2017 08:14 PM

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They are "Pentecostal" JW's.
Two in the Godhead
No hell
144,000 is the bride
No Devil as a being only the flesh
Most are spiritual communion
Sowders taught to be in the bride they could not be having sexual relations
All organized religion is Babylon

Truthseeker 05-09-2017 05:59 AM

Re: Gospel assembly?
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1481662)
They are "Pentecostal" JW's.
Two in the Godhead
No hell
144,000 is the bride
No Devil as a being only the flesh
Most are spiritual communion
Sowders taught to be in the bride they could not be having sexual relations
All organized religion is Babylon


How do they have kids wth out sex?

n david 05-09-2017 10:40 AM

Re: Gospel assembly?
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1481662)
Sowders taught to be in the bride they could not be having sexual relations

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1481685)
How do they have kids wth out sex?

Hard to teach that when GA leaders are convicted of being pedophiles and accused of being rapists. Apparently only the leaders of the GA churches get to do that.

Esaias 05-09-2017 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1481685)
How do they have kids wth out sex?

At the GA in OKC that we would visit on occasion, most families had 5+ kids and were homeschoolers. I think the GA makes a distinction between the Bride and the church?

Evang.Benincasa 05-09-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1481544)
The one that is up the block from you has videos of some of their worship services posted on YOUTUBE, right?

Beats me.

Esaias 05-09-2017 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1481809)
Beats me.

I think he's talking about Bradenton Gospel Assembly?

Evang.Benincasa 05-09-2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1481816)
I think he's talking about Bradenton Gospel Assembly?

That's not up the block.

When I say up the block, I mean a block away.

Esaias 05-10-2017 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1481819)
That's not up the block.

When I say up the block, I mean a block away.

I was thinking "Texas blocks".

:happydance

Scott Pitta 05-10-2017 12:30 AM

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Married couples not having sex was also taught by Harry Morse. It was called the "social purity" doctrine.

But I do not think he demanded it of others. He performed many marriages for his students who, naturally, began producing children.

Steve Epley has one again demonstrated his magnificent perspective and insight.

Truthseeker 05-10-2017 05:54 AM

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Amazing how there can be extremes on both ends on something like sex. One group says no sex for a married couples while the other extreme says everything goes, even perversion, just because they're married.

madras 05-10-2017 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1481851)
the other extreme says everything goes, even perversion, just because they're married.

:thumbsup

Evang.Benincasa 05-10-2017 06:50 AM

Re: Gospel assembly?
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1481851)
Amazing how there can be extremes on both ends on something like sex. One group says no sex for a married couples while the other extreme says everything goes, even perversion, just because they're married.

People bro, people are people. How many religions are there? In Islam you have what is called "innovators" individuals who break off from both mainline groups and form their own little sect. You name the religion and there is an offshoot. The Branch Davidians came out of the Seventh Day Adventists, which came out from the Millerite movement. Mormons came out of the Great Awakening which led up to the Millerites. Mormons have a few different sects which came out of their original and later formations. In Hinduism the different schisms are endless as their Gurus who make it up as they go along. Rabbinical Judaism makes Hinduism look like Baptists. Because Rabbinical Judaism has a central set of books called Talmud which is compiled over debate, arguments, and what ifs? So, to say Rabbinical Judaism believes XY and Z you will find another Rabbi who would argue that. So, while they may look like a text book following religion they have differences within their own circle.

The Roman Catholic church didn't have problems with Bible translations, they had a problem with people coming up with their own conclusions. Meaning that they wanted to people to follow the structure they voted on during their ecumenical councils. They didn't want people like Steve and Mary, having Bible study with a small group and teaching that they could be enlightened, by committing suicide. Or that behind close doors a pious Chuchian couple could pull out whips and chains. A reason why many different churches and sects don't allow their people to read other material. Or have private Bible studies outside of their group. Let's face it, some people come up with the dumbest teachings when they separate themselves. Sadly they lead others not only away from 'truth" but away from Jesus Christ the giver of the Truth.

Steve Epley 05-10-2017 07:36 AM

Re: Gospel assembly?
 
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Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1481845)
Married couples not having sex was also taught by Harry Morse. It was called the "social purity" doctrine.

But I do not think he demanded it of others. He performed many marriages for his students who, naturally, began producing children.

Steve Epley has one again demonstrated his magnificent perspective and insight.

Thanks.
Sowders taught the original sin in the garden was sex thus to reach perfection one had to overcome sex. The 144,000 were said to be virgins was his reasoning. The movement was rife with immorality because of the erroneous teaching. I think the majority of the movement reject that today.

Evang.Benincasa 05-10-2017 08:46 AM

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http://www.gospelassemblyfree.com/facts/sowders.htm


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