Any Jesus Name Apostolic prepper familys out there
 

We are wanting to meet other Jesus Name apostolic family's who like remote living, or off grid living.
We raise our own, beef, pork, and can. Really simple life, and enjoy doing fun things as a family.
Milk cow, homemade cheese and hunting.
Would like help on solar and wind projects, or ideas.
Most people only feel safe in crowded citys with street lights, we prefer moon light and stars.
No light bill, Off grid
No water bill, solar well
Live in low over head state, land taxes are only 40 bucks per year.
Raise our own food.
Built our own house.
So all our money goes to toys, fun and Jesus. Not mortgages and credit card payments.
Only thing, no jones here to impress, just deer and elk and the mountains under the stars.

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wow i love the sound of that but can youm actually make it out to church from a place like that?i am definlitly jesus name apostolic. live in the country the solar thing has always been an interest to me . less bills more mobey sounds real good lol.

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You need to find The Preppers Patch out here.

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That sounds amazing.

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Sounds like heaven on earth...my dream home when I was young! Many that post on this tread are preppers to some degree! Sadly we live in a very expensive state, God put us here so its ours till he moves us...we have no credit cards, and no mortgage (thanks to Jesus and our mom)...we live as simply as we can not being in the country. We do our best to be prepared for what ever may happen, for us its a matter also of very limited income, and age.

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Well the best way to be safe is not so much prepper stuff as is, being away from large over populated masses of people. We once lived 140 miles north of Houston during hurricane Katrina happened. Even though we were 140 miles north of Houston, we had no gas, or food on shelves for weeks. All the gas stations on main hwy 45 got gas, but all the small towns where we were were totally out of gas for over 2 weeks.
We saw people and family's sleeping in gravel store parking lots with children. It was eye opening.
Funny thing us human beings, we feel safe in large citys riddled with crime, but would be scared to sleep in country without security light on for the coons and coyotes to see.
Who invented large citys?? God said go and replenish the earth, and the tower of babul he did not like. Im not saying citys are wrong, just funny how we get brain washed in what seems safe and what is not.

Ask yourself these questions??
1. In 10 years how old will you be? How old will your kids be?
2. In 10 years do you want to be where you are now?
3. Even if you live long enough ( 30 + yrs) to pay your house off, how much will the taxes be to keep it? ( 300+ per month for ever).
4. If your going to make a change or a move , would you rather do it at 35 to 40 years old, or would it be better to wait until your 60 years old, and kids have already been absorbed into the world and lost.

Funny how people like me, may be thought of as nutty for spending a few bucks on solar and wind, and real land for our family.

But think nothing of buying a 25k car every 2 to 3 years. In ten years they may spend 200k on cars, THAT DO RUST AND corrupt to nothing.

Im not trying to judge or put down anyone, just that sad people are not enjoying life and there children, they are just existing with mortgages so large, its a joke to ever thing you will live long enough to pay it off.

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you are very wise...

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Oh, you are so right. ;)

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It is our family's desire to live as much off the land as possible. We are currently working towards this goal as much as we can. We have looked into off-grid options in the past. There are many that we know who live in our area that live off grid. It is a hard life though! It is not for the faint of heart! There are many others who are semi off-grid, with backup systems with generators, solar systems etc, who have chickens, goats, large gardens, greenhouses, windmills and other natural resources to boost their independence.

It is our desire to live life simply, and enjoy the natural beauty God has supplied in the area we live in, and spend our time loving God and one another.

I think you hit a lot of great points that many people need to consider who are city dwellers.

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Yes, I agree. I believe that every Christian should be looking forward to simplifying their life, instead of following the rat-race that is the standard of the world. It is more important to teach children, common sense as well as the love of God, than it is for them to be popular at school.
And if possible, Home School is the best.

Common sense, would include how to take care of themselves in an emergency. There will be so many people, that will not have a clue as to what to do, except to prey on those that do.

When I say, look forward, they may find the work harder, but working with the family they may find it to be the most enjoyable kind of life. But for those that have never lived this kind of life, they may need someone to guide them.

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Yes, and what you said about people "preying on others"... that is something that should concern those who are preparing. It is wise to be careful and quiet about what you are doing, and not go around "bragging" about how much you may have stored up. If times get hard, and people are desperate, things will get ugly. Yet, we must remember that Christians, as the light and salt of the world, must be ready to help others as much as we can.

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Good stuff ladies...be wise!

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Sounds like a nice dream that will end up being a cult.

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why does it have to be a cult?? honest sincere people can live for god and go off grid .... i have brought all my bills down the last few years for sure. all i owe for is my house now. and trying to hit it hard. going off into nowhere land wont wont for me i pastor a church plus own a construction business..the business i would trade for the wilderness life in a heart beat;; but ministry is my heart and soul //

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If does not, bless you.

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Not trying to argue, just wanting to know your reasoning behind "living a simple life will lead to being a cult"?

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Awesome. Although city-bred, Houston, i have been living this life for the last five years or so. i'm currently just finishing a gig as project director for a permaculture startup, Flintopia (it's on FB).

Solar is under $1 a watt now, with new, improved tech coming online daily--can't think of a better investment. Not hard to install. I've built a low-tech wind generator from old farm and car parts, a couple of times, they work well as an augment, but unreliable (so i modified a bicycle to augment the augment). I might be able to help. For electrical generation, i would advise concentrating on the solar, as it is necessarily high-tech, but more reliable, and do wind as a low-tech project--except possibly for some unusual climate areas.

There are also many other ways to extract energy from solar, passive heat capture, etc., that are easy and effective. I'm big on sourcing what i need from junk. Here's a current...well, i was going to say 'tidbit,' but for you more like 'bombshell:' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFw7U7V1Hok
(furnace, engine, welder, ...) Please holler if i may be of any service. My kinda cult :D

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Ok, and i know where the Church is, too! :)

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In communes it usually does.

If you know of any examples where it didn't I like to know about it, there might be exemptions…..

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Just because you live off grid, with a simple life, not depending on government resources, with independence, does not mean that you are a cult, or living in a commune. We know many people in our area who have chosen to live off grid, raise their families, and are thriving actually. It is a hard way of life, no doubt, and not for everyone... but many do it, and love it.

I do know about communes/cults very well, and you are right, when a group of people come together to live off the land, etc, and have everything common, then yes, that community almost always becomes cult-like in its thinking.

However, you can, as a family, live off the land, live simply, and have a wonderful life. If multiple families come together to do this, then I see that possibility becoming a problem, because communism doesn't work... but a single family doing this because they want to would not cause that.

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I agree with you, individual families can do it.
Done it ourselves years ago.
We were glad to come back to electricity and the other conveniences. :-)

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That was a really cool video, Shazeep... thanks. I've passed it on to a friend who is currently in the process of going off grid. Any more tips you can share, awesome. In about a year or so, we would like to become less energy dependent ourselves.

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Can you share a bit more about it? Was it communal living, hence your premise about the cult-thing? Or was it just your family alone?

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Each year at our high school, the seniors have to do a senior project, and then present it. We went to the presentation for the senior projects this week, and I was really impressed with the ingenuity of some of the children there. One senior did his project on solar power. He set up his family's home on solar power for $3000.00, and did it himself, and documented his steps all along the way. It was really impressive. He said the charge controller was the most expensive part of the solar set up.

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Hmm, communism--a term that has obviously been manipulated, and is now heavily loaded--seemed to work fine in Acts? I would postulate that every other example of Communism that has ever been presented to you has been Atheistic. The OP lacks several qualities that would DQ them from even Theistic Communism, anyway.

Having lived the last 5-6 years with everything in common, i can say that it does not seem to be this that would tend toward a cult, but rather the group-think that can evolve which might lead the group down some Gnostic path, with ego prevalent. I note that in this atmosphere, Christ is sidelined, and even mentioning Christ will bring a rapid reality-check to anyone with ears.

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I am not sure how long communal living lasted in the book of Acts, but it didn't last forever, it eventually died out. Communism will never work, no matter whether God is involved or not. The weakest link in the chain becomes its destruction, every time. It takes one link to decide they want to live off of everyone else's work for the whole system to crumble. In a perfect world, maybe... but humans aren't perfect...

.... therefore, it remains that each family unit working together, and coming together in groups to help and assist each other, but being completely independent of each other, is the way that works.

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You might check out Earthship Biotecture, http://earthship.com/

I'm heading there soon, to get my master's in composting toilets. As hard as it may be to fathom, many, many people live in completely self-sufficient homes, with no services coming in, and no waste going out, with all of the modern conveniences, and a permaculture (translation: no cultivation, digging, etc.) food forest to harvest meals from. Thermal mass regulates temp, summer and winter. Goats, chickens, and aquaculture for milk and protein, and your 'job' is maintaining it all.

Geoff Lawton can guide one though the permaculture principles; he is in one of the links on this page i recently built, which has many good info links
https://sustainable-living.zeef.com/flintopia

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Ah, i see your point there; and while i might argue it on the merits, and suggest that it might actually be a way to remain in the world as we are directed, you do have a point. (I'm seeing reflections of your characterization died out in prophets and tongues, too, hmm)

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But i must say that in the Acts example of Communism, the weak links are...inevitably eradicated? And in my limited exposure, unanimously.

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however, i do like your model for normal humans, as it keeps any personal issues in a family, i guess. tho it would be nice to be able to envision this feeling just extended to...everyone, i guess?

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I think I've heard just about everything now! :toofunny

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Don't laugh. It might be the way of the future. You know that tap water you drink... you are more than likely digesting particles of drugs, human waste + no telling what other chemicals, because the water treatment plants can only do so much. Composting toilets would eliminate the chemicals/waste getting into your water supply.

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It terrifies me to think of all the drugs people are ingesting through their water supply.....

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Yes it is a terrifying thought! We are on well water, and so thankful that we are. We live in a remote area, so no worry of chemicals, pesticides or such being in the well water. We also have a filter.

But people who live in cities, and are on city water, or sewer water, as my husband likes to call it... ewww... it is just disgusting to think about how all that water keeps being recycled, and it is not pure, just loaded with chemicals.

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I just found it amusing that there's a master's degree in toilet composting. I really like the earthship.com link. That would be incredible to live in.

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We are also on well water. I had it tested and that tells some things. It looked good. We are also up on a hill to some extent so fertilizers from the nearby fields hoefully doesn't come our way.

What do you know about water softeners for health benefit/risk?

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i'm convinced that the whole 'fracking' thing is more about ruining the aquifer than oil...
Lol. i was sold when i learned of the lady who makes about $5k a year on the side selling flowers from her compost-toilet-fed greenhouse, while 'we' pay to have what is essentially fertilizer removed from the property.