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What ya think?

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Me thinks you may need to repost it. :)

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grrrrrr....i keep tryin to but i can't figure out how to embed a video! heeeellp!

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http://www.youtube.com/embed/FZiDGOTYqUM


That's not embedded, but the link works.

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I wanna embed! lol
This is the second video i have tried to embed and it didnt work.

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Well, here's a tutorial for you. ;)

http://www.htmlgoodies.com/tutorials...r-Web-Site.htm

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Have you been using the Insert Image icon when embedding? That is how I do it.

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No, this is Baptist with a dash of salt.

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Watched half of it.

You know, I've always wondered why most gays develop the same lisp in their voice when talking. I now wonder why all faith healers sound like Peter Popoff.

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This is "Prophet John Arcovio"...pretty big in the UPCI. Has some great books but seems to have kind of gone off the deep end as of late. idk

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How so?

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Don't know anything about this "apostle" but that glowing purple carpet in that video has to be about the ugliest I have ever seen in a church!!! Good grief!!!!! Did they allow the blind ministry to interior decorate? LOL!!!!

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Not interested. Appalling to me, sorry.

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first of all I agree with the comment about the purple carpet. I like the color but WOW that is over the top. :) secondly I agree with Randy about the pattern of speech.
third I never question someone who claims to be healed or their form of worship. that is between them and God.
I just pray anyone that God uses never forgets WHO it is that should get all the PRAISE, GLORY, and HONOR

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Sorry, but I think we should and are obligated to do so. I would even question magicians at a show I paid to get tickets to watch. How much more should we validate and verify a claim that God Almighty removed a tumor or gave the highest GPA to a boy?

I am tired of pronouncements of a myriad of instantaneous "healings" while my two quadriplegic friends are conveniently passed over in favor of those with sore muscles and practice of psychosomatic medicine on others. Since proclamation of deliverance is a core tenant of the "healing" event, the actual proclamation or claim of healing often does not resemble reality.

I do not believe this is what Jesus practiced in the Gospels, nor what occurred with the Apostles in the book of Acts.

Well, the one lady was going back ton the doctors on august 8th... I wonder what the report was...?

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That's Bro. Archovio*. He's a part of the UPCI.

*spelling

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In all actuality, it is possible that the carpet is not as hideous as it appears in this video. CCI - you should know more than anyone else on this forum how poor quality cameras can affect color.

But I will agree - IF the carpet is the color it appears to be, it is UGLY. :thumbsup

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Arcovio

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Amen......


....and Bingo!

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Like i said..Bro Arcovio has some great books on fasting, prayer, and humility. However, i have a problem with someone who is constantly referring to themselves as a "Prophet to the nations". Many things he has said in his "Words to the church" and predictions has not bore witness with my Spirit. Seems like he had a good start. I would recomment his book entitled "The Way of the Eagle" to anyone. Last time i read "Discerning the Sprits of this Endtime Apostolic Age" i enjoyed it and gleaned from it as well. I don't know what i would think of it now if i read it. I remember a couple years ago i watched this video i thought it was great! Now when i watch it it just doesn't seem right at all. Seems like showmanship. I hope the girl was healed and if she was...Praise God! I would never want to blaspheme the Holy Ghost.

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I'm thankful for God doing anything for anybody anywhere.

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I'm always very weary of the "I see something in my spirit prophets". They absolutely infest PAW these days and to be totally honest I stay away from it. I don't know how UPCI is but people who go around saying things like "God is going to elevate you on your job and your going to do great things" and then call themselves "prophets" definitely turn me off. This was foreign to the Holiness church (speaking mostly to PAW, idk how long this has been going on in UPCI) a decade ago. Now it's all over PAW. I mean most people even in this economy have jobs, most people want a raise. So to just randomly say you are going to be elevated on your job really isn't good enough. I guess if it happens that's awesome, but beware of these "vague" prophecies. In the scripture I'm pretty sure if God told Elijah about your job he'd be able to tell you the company, location of the firm, the city where the headquarters are at, your supervisors name, your supervisors children's names, (lol not seriously, just saying it'd be a little bit more specific).

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Does he believe you must pay tithes?

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Welcome to my view of the whole (usual) fiasco known as the Word of Knowledge. God, being all-knowing, is probably able to give a few more specifics when revealing info on someones life -IF it is really God talking.

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I have no clue

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There's no way to know from a YouTube video what, if anything, happened medically here. Ironically, I can't make out most of the audio due to my own impaired hearing. If the young lady reports that she's doing or feeling better, then that's great - Johnny ("I'm-Not-Throw'in-Out-These-Shoes") A. did his job.

For me, it's enough that he's preaching without a tie on. That's Apostolic!

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When one is paying the bills without a lot of tithe income, one might be tempted to go "The Faith Route" and be a "Prophet to the Nations."

dunno.

Ain't seen nor talked to the guy in about 17 years or so.

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This is Jerry Wayne Dillons church in Madison MS. Its not ugly, actually its a nice church. I went there for a little while.

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Why doesn't God ever heal the amputee? Why is it always the unseen back pain or (never verified) tumor?

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He fell off quite a while ago.

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We've had a few verified tumors healed. One young man just recently had and inoperable tumor on his lung and cancer else where in his body. He came and was Baptized in Jesus name and when he went back to the dr for a follow up the tumor on his lung was gone. He received treatment for the rest and is expecting a full recovery. Why didn't God take it all away? I dont know. But i certainly do believe God moved so that this young man who was not expected to live is now expecting to make a full recovery. I have seen enough genuine healings to know that God moves. If we will fast and pray and seek God, then we don't need fakery or showmanship!!!

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Well said!

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I believe in healings and have seen one that I absolutely know was a divine healing. However, healings do not validate truth or a specific ministry. Satan's deceivers are most adept in "healing" and "miracles". I'm reminded of something Jesus said in Matthew....

Matthew 7:22-23
English Standard Version (ESV)
22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' 23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'

Notice something... these false apostles will state that they performed:

Prophesy
Casting out of demons
Mighty works

Notice something about "mighty works"... the word for "works" here is "dunamis". It's translated according to Strongs as being:

1411 // dunamiv // dunamis // doo'-nam-is //

from 1410 ; TDNT - 2:284,186; n f

AV - power 77, mighty work 11, strength 7, miracle 7, might 4,
virtue 3, mighty 2, misc 9; 120

1) strength power, ability
1a) inherent power, power residing in a thing by virtue of its
nature, or which a person or thing exerts and puts forth
1b) power for performing miracles
1c) moral power and excellence of soul
1d) the power and influence which belong to riches and wealth
1e) power and resources arising from numbers
1f) power consisting in or resting upon armies, forces, hosts

Notice that their "works" are the "miraculous"... or the sensational giftings. These, with their emphasis on miracles, lost out with the Lord because they failed to actually develop a personal relationship with the person of Jesus.

Miracles really aren't a focus of the Gospel. They are sometimes found in the wake of a move of God, but they are not to be in any way a focus. Churches and ministries that are built around miracles are seriously something to be cautious of (namely "faith healers"). Remember, not only does their focus on miracles often shipwreck the faith of hurting believers... but even if a miracle takes place... it doesn't mean that said ministry will truly benefit the soul. It all becomes Christian mysticism.

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I hate to hurt all you doubters and unbelievers but MIRACLES HAPPEN TODAY! I have seen the blind eyes opened, deaf ears unstopped, tumors & growths disappear, backs straighted, limbs grow, hearts healed,the dead raised to life and many other miracles.
Your unbelief will not make the faith of God without effect - God forbid - let every man be a LIAR and let God be truth! Romans 3:3-4

Why get on this "Apostolic" Christian Forum and tear down the miraculous? You need a check up from the neck up!
MIRACLES HAPPEN TODAY!
The problem might be your DOUBT and UNBELIEF or where you go to Church! Where I go - we see Miracles and have testimonies of MIRACLES every service! Now - THAT'S APOSTOLIC!

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For the record. I believe miracles do happen present day. I have no doubt that God is able - in fact I believe he created the earth.

Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:

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Or the ultimate miracle, the Creation of the Universe, otherwise known as the Big Bang. :)

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I'm actually agreeing with you -just being a bit sarcastic in my last post. I've seen the real deal (with doctor verification afterwards since I knew the people personally). I also know that in every case there was no shock & showmanship involved. There was no dancing at the alter because "my back pain disappeared!". It was all matter-of-fact. Oh yes, and the preacher was not a Peter Popoff clone.

And for those still on the "limb lengthening kick", I have some magical linking rings to show you. Sure, it may be trickery which causes them to link 98% of the time, but certainly God is responsible for the other 2%!