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Light 03-29-2010 11:44 AM

Bush Wipes hands
 
Bush shakes black mans hand then wipes his hand on Clinton's shirt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kIJ3Cu-aQ

*AQuietPlace* 03-29-2010 11:47 AM

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:rolleyes2

If you're implying that he's a racist, that's absurd. Whatever you think of Bush and his policies, he's not a racist.

It's not very clear that he's actually wiping his hand, but if he was maybe the guy's hand was sticky or sweaty? I frequently wipe my hands after shaking someone's hands, because I hate the clammy feel that a lot of hands have. ;)

Light 03-29-2010 11:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 892468)
:rolleyes2

If you're implying that he's a racist, that's absurd. Whatever you think of Bush and his policies, he's not a racist.

It's not very clear that he's actually wiping his hand, but if he was maybe the guy's hand was sticky or sweaty? I frequently wipe my hands after shaking someone's hands, because I hate the clammy feel that a lot of hands have. ;)


You need to read Barbara bushes comments about the blacks in New Orleans after the destruction. It's very clear to those that are not blind.

Light 03-29-2010 11:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 892468)
:rolleyes2

It's not very clear that he's actually wiping his hand, but if he was maybe the guy's hand was sticky or sweaty? I frequently wipe my hands after shaking someone's hands, because I hate the clammy feel that a lot of hands have. ;)


Watch Clinton's shirt as Bush wipes his hand in this clip.Look how Clinton looks at Bush. Bush is a real classy guy.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Golz1zoCZSk

StillStanding 03-29-2010 12:05 PM

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Oh Brother! :wacko

If Bush didn't want to shake hands with blacks, why did he stick his hand out?

He wiggled his hand before wiping it on Clinton's shirt, indicating something sticky or sweaty had been transferred to his hand on the handshake.

I love how you guys try to make a racial situation out of everything! Give me a break!!!

John Atkinson 03-29-2010 12:06 PM

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http://nathanielstern.com/blog/wp-co...comes-you.jpeg

Esther 03-29-2010 12:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 892475)

You need to read Barbara bushes comments about the blacks in New Orleans after the destruction. It's very clear to those that are not blind.

Was it acturate comments? You know sometimes the truth hurts.

Jermyn Davidson 03-29-2010 12:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 892502)
Was it acturate comments? You know sometimes the truth hurts.

Esther, do you even know what she said?

Esther 03-29-2010 12:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 892503)
Esther, do you even know what she said?

Nope. That is why I asked.

Jermyn Davidson 03-29-2010 01:06 PM

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"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this (she chuckles slightly)--this is working very well for them."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001054719




"What's interesting is that both points are valid in isolation and probably could be made in a much more sensitive manner. And so it seems to me that what we find objectionable about her comment isn't so much the substance, but rather that the context of the substance (her phrasing, her non-verbal expression) reveals an ugly hidden meaning. This is usually how it is in such things."

This is a very good summation of that insulting episode that I found at the website below.


http://www.metafilter.com/44871/Barb...rina-survivors

Jermyn Davidson 03-29-2010 01:07 PM

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Esther, are you aware of the living conditions there at the "Astrodome" immediately after Katrina?

Jermyn Davidson 03-29-2010 01:12 PM

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If you are interested, I encourage you to look it up.

Apparently, the conditions were very unpleasant-- and that is putting it mildly.


What happened there should NEVER have happened in America.

Maybe in the Phillipines or India, but not in the USA.


Truly, the local, state and federal govts failed their citizens in this specific fiasco.

It was a failure of tremendous proportions and Ms. Bush's comments reflected a callousness that you could argue was a reflection of her lack of regard for those American citizens as equal Americans in her mind.

Jermyn Davidson 03-29-2010 01:13 PM

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Esther, I love your soul and I will pray for you.

Ferd 03-29-2010 01:14 PM

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good grief.

n david 03-29-2010 01:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 892520)
Esther, I love your soul and I will pray for you.

I don't have anything good to say about this comment, so I'll keep it to myself.

Unbelievable.

oletime 03-29-2010 01:38 PM

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Obviously whoever had something on their hands and, as a joke guys do that ,wipe it on your buddys shirt, has nothing to do with color, relax folks!. Incidentally if you never traveled to these 3 world countries, you are told never touch their left hand ,why? because they dont have what we have as basic necessities and they use that hand instead ,its a fact. So you carry disinfectant gel with you at all times,its not to be believed unless seen.

oletime 03-29-2010 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 892512)
Esther, are you aware of the living conditions there at the "Astrodome" immediately after Katrina?

No, she probably isnt and neither are you jd unless you were there, because a lot of it was all media driven exxagerations and it never could be proven, ie no one was stabbed or raped like they said. The fact of the matter is ,they were told to leave the city and they didnt.That city and state could be argued as the most corrupt, crime ridden city in america before and nothing changed after. The whole city failed,instead of the money being used for what it was intended it was stolen, like some 3 world country, by corrupt public officials, instead of helping each other, like has happened in other cities recently, in the midwest that were flooded ,they turned on each other even more and it was every man for himself.

*AQuietPlace* 03-29-2010 02:21 PM

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Regardless of Barbara Bush's comments (and I haven't looked them up in context), I thought we were discussing George W?

SOUNWORTHY 03-29-2010 03:18 PM

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It's hard to believe that anyone would post something this stupid. Guess I have wiped my hands on my wife's shirt a few times. The crown was heavy and I wanted to move on so I put my hand on her shoulder with a slight nudgs and let my hand trail off down her arm.

By the way when I shake hands at church I get to the rest room ASAP and scrub my hands. I can't afford to ger the flu and will be even more unable to afford it when
the Obama plan goes into affect.

Ferd 03-29-2010 03:21 PM

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what does anyone care? GWB is an Ex-President. he has no power. he doesnt really matter any more. get over it.

Jermyn Davidson 03-29-2010 03:43 PM

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From Wikipedia....



Ninety percent of the residents of southeast Louisiana were evacuated in the most successful evacuation of a major urban area in the nation's history. Despite this, many remained (mainly the elderly and poor). The Louisiana Superdome was used for those who remained in the city. The city flooded due to the failure of the federally built levee system.[5] Many who remained in their homes had to swim for their lives, wade through deep water, or remain trapped in their attics or on their rooftops.

The disaster had major implications for a large segment of the population, economy, and politics of the entire United States. It has prompted a Congressional review of the Corps of Engineers and the failure of portions of the federally built flood protection system which experts agree should have protected the city's inhabitants from Katrina's surge. Katrina has also stimulated significant research in the academic community into urban planning, real estate finance, and economic issues in the wake of a natural disaster.[6]

Jermyn Davidson 03-29-2010 03:45 PM

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Last Updated: Tuesday, 6 September 2005, 11:35 GMT 12:35 UK

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Britons describe hurricane ordeal

The rubbish-strewn Superdome
Britons returning from New Orleans have described the horrifying conditions there.
They were among the thousands forced to seek refuge from the floods that engulfed the city following Hurricane Katrina.

Some 96 Britons still remain unaccounted for.


MICHELLE ANDREWS
Student Michelle Andrews, 20, said she had been sheltering on the 17th floor of a New Orleans hotel when Katrina hit.


They just turned us away and said we would have to fend for ourselves

Michelle Andrews

"We just lay down in the corridors as these thick white clouds just closed in on us. It was Hell."

But after the hurricane passed, the hotel asked Ms Andrews, from south Wales, and the friends she was travelling with to leave.

"We went to a convention centre where the National Guard was based - but they just turned us away and said we would have to fend for ourselves."

The group ended up sleeping rough on a 30ft-high covered walkway before being found by an Australian television crew and rescued.

"Every day we woke to more dead bodies and people with guns. There was polluted water everywhere and the smell was awful. And there was no electricity. It was so dark."



TERESA CHERRIE AND JOHN DRYSDALE
Nurse Teresa Cherrie, 42, and her partner lorry driver John Drysdale, 41, said they had flown to the US on 27 August, after their travel company told them the "tropical storm" would only last a day.

We got told to go ahead and enjoy our holiday

John Drysdale

"We never had any idea of what we were getting into. We got told to go ahead and enjoy our holiday," Mr Drysdale said.

The couple, from Renfrew in Scotland, fled from New Orleans to Baton Rouge, where they were forced to scavenge for food, while hiding from armed gangs.

"We were getting followed about... they were saying, 'They've got water, they've got water'," Mr Drysdale said.

Ms Cherrie said they would send a cheque to reimburse a store they had looted.

"We only took some water and we took some food and some tins and a carton of cigarettes."



JENNY SACHS
Jenny Sachs, of Sheffield, told how soldiers had to smuggle her out of the Superdome in secret.

She was one of about 30 Britons who, realising they could not escape the city, had fled to the stadium for shelter.

The military got us out, which we were all thankful for

Jenny Sachs


Watch Jenny Sachs

"It has hit me more now I am at home, when you can have clean water, how bad it was," she said.

She said people had been raped and that others were beaten up.

"A guy was brought in who had seven stab wounds and was covered in blood."

The military told all non-US citizens to stay together for safety, Ms Sachs added.

They later told them they would be secretly smuggled out in groups of 10 under cover of darkness as it had become too dangerous for them to remain in the stadium, she told BBC News.

"When we were leaving, people were going 'Where are you going?' and giving us looks.

"But the military got us out, which we were all thankful for."



GED, SANDRA AND RONAN SCOTT

After looters had broken into New Orleans' Ramada Hotel, bus driver Ged Scott, 36, of Liverpool - stranded with his wife Sandra, 37, and their seven-year-old son, Ronan - had waded waist-deep through the filthy water to barricade the hotel's doors, he told BBC News.


I could see bodies floating in the water
Ged Scott


Watch the interview

"It was like wading through an open sewer.

"It reeked to high heaven and made you want to vomit.

"Outside I could see bodies floating in the water."

Mr Scott told BBC News he had ripped wires attached to speakers from the walls of the flooded hotel bar and tied tables and chairs together as makeshift barricades.

Hotel guests had already managed to chase one group of looters from the building, he added.

They had then taken turns patrolling the hotel's corridors with a torch, Mr Scott told BBC News.








The rest of the eye witness accounts from this BBC report are here.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4214746.stm

Jermyn Davidson 03-29-2010 03:54 PM

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Esther,

I typed that I love your soul because to say I love you I felt would have been inappropriate.

I only know you from AFF, I have never met you in person, and though we have clashed many times before, you have never disrespected me.


It appears to some that my response was over-the-top towards you.

I never meant it to be taken that way.

But it has been taken that way and I bear the responsibility of communication when I communicate.



Esther, I apologize for sounding harsh, rude, unloving, and generally un-Christian in responding to you.


Please forgive me.



Jermyn Davidson

Praxeas 03-29-2010 07:25 PM

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Before going on, Barbara said nothing about blacks, though they were the majority probably.

Here is what she said
Almost everyone I�ve talked to says we’re going to move to Houston.” Then she added: “What I’m hearing is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality.



“And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this,”—she chuckles slightly—“this is working very well for them.”



Sounds like a misguided way of hyping Texas hospitality,but it does not make George W Bush a racist

Praxeas 03-29-2010 07:29 PM

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It looks as much like he was touching Bill to say "Let's go" and let his hand slide down on his shirt...,doesn't mean he was trying to wipe something off.

What was he wiping off? Blackness? Good grief

pelathais 03-29-2010 09:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 892466)
Bush shakes black mans hand then wipes his hand on Clinton's shirt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kIJ3Cu-aQ

Oh c'mon, Jermyn. From the looks of it, Bush simply patted Clinton on the shoulder - and then found that shoulder to be really sweaty.

You seem to be digging for things to be angry about here. Sit a spell and listen to one of my rants and you'll have plenty to be angry about without resorting to Indy Media and HuffPo.

Concerning your posts about Katrina - President Bush pleaded and begged with then Louisiana Governor Blanco (D.) to order an evacuation of New Orleans before the storm hit. She refused right up until the very last minute. She wanted to show that she didn't take orders from those Republicans in Washington!

Bush did everything he legally could to get people out of the way of that storm - black people, white people, creole people - all people! The President of the United States however cannot order an evacuation of civilians like that, only state governors can. It's in the Constitution to limit the ability of the Federal government to herd us around.

It was Governor Blanco's fault that so many people were left behind, not the President's.

See http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/c...inanation.html

pelathais 03-29-2010 09:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 892700)
It looks as much like he was touching Bill to say "Let's go" and let his hand slide down on his shirt...,doesn't mean he was trying to wipe something off.

What was he wiping off? Blackness? Good grief

I wonder if George W. Bush wiped his hands off after touching Condi Rice so many times?

http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...bush_divorce-0

John Atkinson 03-30-2010 06:30 AM

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For the record I didn't Like GWB, haven't liked any president since Reagan. But this over reaction to a supposed slight is just plain ridiculous. Especially since it is being made by folks who think Barry the Messiah, the worst failure to ever hold the post, hung the Sun, the moon and the stars.

Just sayin'

MissBrattified 03-30-2010 07:09 AM

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Oh, my goodness!!! ROFL!!!! The ONLY notable thing about the video is that Bush wiped his hand on CLINTON'S SHIRT!!!!! THAT is hilarious. :toofunny

1. The racism (IF that's what it is) of Barbara Bush is irrelevant to this conversation. Lots of people in my family are racist. That doesn't make me one.

2. There is NO way to know why Bush wiped his hand. Sorry. No matter what the reason, he showed BC the most disrespect by wiping whatever was offensive on his shirt, and that is just plain funny. :D :D

I have shaken hands with people before and could FEEL the grime in their hands. Did I wipe my hands (or wash my hands) as soon as possible? YES! And I wouldn't refrain just because they were black. Black people get dirt and grime on their hands just like anyone else. LOL!!!!!

Light 03-30-2010 08:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 892796)
For the record I didn't Like GWB, haven't liked any president since Reagan. But this over reaction to a supposed slight is just plain ridiculous. Especially since it is being made by folks who think Barry the Messiah, the worst failure to ever hold the post, hung the Sun, the moon and the stars.

Just sayin'


JOHN you know you are telling a false hood.:heart Trying to be nice with the heart ha.
John what will you and all the ney sayers say if the policies of this administration return this Country back like Clinton left it, with a surplus?

Ferd 03-30-2010 08:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 892823)

JOHN you know you are telling a false hood.:heart Trying to be nice with the heart ha.
John what will you and all the ney sayers say if the policies of this administration return this Country back like Clinton left it, with a surplus?

Frist of all lets get back to the question of why you think GWB matters any more? He is an Ex-President. We Americans like our Ex-Presidents to fade into history. Its that whole Anit-dictator thing we have going.

Second, Please remember that Clinton's surplus's were had two very important elements you seem to refuse to acknowlege.
1. The end of the cold war (we called it the peace dividend)
2. Newt Gingrich

Ferd 03-30-2010 08:22 AM

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Oh and GWB spent way too much. He spent about 1/6 what The Obama is spending.

John Atkinson 03-30-2010 09:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 892823)

JOHN you know you are telling a false hood.:heart Trying to be nice with the heart ha.
John what will you and all the ney sayers say if the policies of this administration return this Country back like Clinton left it, with a surplus?

No offense Bro, but you don't get out of debt by creating more debt. The principle is the same whether it is our house or the country.

I don't for a second see this administration leaving the US in anything but a hole that it may never get out of.

deacon blues 03-30-2010 09:46 AM

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First, its hard to take anyone seriously who supports BO when he sat under one of the most racist public figures in current memory in Jeremiah Wright for 20 years. To make GWB a racist by association because his mother said something that is assumed racist and give Barry a pass even though his pastor made very pointed racist remarks in his pulpit almost weekly is tansparently hypocritical.

Second, if BO's policies produces a surplus, Light, I will believe he is not only a messiah, I will believe he is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ! It aint gonna happen.

Jermyn Davidson 03-30-2010 02:46 PM

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For Pelathais,


I was only commenting on the Katrina referrence, not on Bush wiping his hands on Clinton becuase someone else's hands were sweaty.

Praxeas 03-30-2010 04:55 PM

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That Barbara Bush is a racist from that one comment is absurd...an elitist maybe, but even that comment does not make her an elitist.

Clinton cut a lot of money out of the Military budget and we were not spending huge sums of money keeping large forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Clinton did not reduce the debt by raising it.


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